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					I believe Kassian was hurt in that fight.
			
		 
	 
	
 
he was, took him out for a while
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					I wonder if Milwaukee is complaining about being a small market NBA team.
			
		 
	 
	
 
The NBA has a much more restrictive NMC/NTC policy that protects smaller or less desirable markets.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					I wonder if Milwaukee is complaining about being a small market NBA team.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Its not "complaining" just reality that its tougher
2 Championships and 3 final appearances in 52 seasons, I'm sure they have complained plenty
Lakers management is 10x better or does the market have something to do with it?
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Bucks top players are homegrown or acquired through trade anyways.
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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					Bucks top players are homegrown or acquired through trade anyways.
			
		 
	 
	
 
That's pretty much true of most Stanley Cup winners too.
Has there ever been a Cup winner that was primarily led by players who joined the team as UFAs?
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					Well that's disheartening.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Play the good one...
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					The NBA has a much more restrictive NMC/NTC policy that protects smaller or less desirable markets.
			
		 
	 
	
 
No, it doesn't. If a star wants out he will force it. Just look at Kyrie, Davis, Harden as examples last couple of years. 
Milwaukee got lucky that Greek is a good dude and bought into their plan and they won the championship.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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					The NBA has a much more restrictive NMC/NTC policy that protects smaller or less desirable markets.
			
		 
	 
	
 
NBA stars pretty much decide where they play.  I really don’t see the NBA protecting their small markets through any policies personally.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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					Bucks top players are homegrown or acquired through trade anyways.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Ding, ding, ding.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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					Yet time and time again you post in support of the current GM. 7-8 years into his rebuild and no closer to being a contender, and potentially got worse this offseason, by your own admission. If the Flames aren't actually getting better, why so resistant to a change?
			
		 
	 
	
 
Because that's how I feel?
I don't think Treliving is a bad GM. 
I think he made a call on Monahan and Gaudreau that didn't work out, and with that you have a flawed core. But it's a call I didn't agree with so I'm not going to hindsight it into something I've always known.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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					Ding, ding, ding.
			
		 
	 
	
 
So we need to rebuild? I agree.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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			He's not a bad GM but he made a bad call on the core...again....and again....and again.
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					You could likely call that a draw and edge to Kassian but only because he got EG’s jersey over him.  EG was still throwing hard even with the jersey over his head.
			
		 
	 
	
 
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					Maybe the idea is to make the Flames a physically intimidating team to play against, kind of like Washington in the east.
			
		 
	 
	
 
But only Tkachuk and Coleman really play with any skill.
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					But only Tkachuk and Coleman really play with any skill.
			
		 
	 
	
 
If you want a roster of 23 skilled players, find yourself a league with no cap.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			CP complains that the team is butter soft over the last few seasons. Sign a bunch of #######s. CP complains that the team has no skill.
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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					So we need to rebuild? I agree.
			
		 
	 
	
 
Was really referring to your insight as to how the Bucks were built.  You were right and that’s how it should be done IMO.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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			Oh god I forgot we re-signed Ritchie too.
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
			
			 
		
			 
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					CP complains that the team is butter soft over the last few seasons. Sign a bunch of #######s. CP complains that the team has no skill.
			
		 
	 
	
 
I don't think the people who bemoan the team's lack of skill are the same that complained about a lack of toughness before it.
This team has lacked skill for a while now.
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	 
 
	
		
 
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			 
 
 
	
		
			
				
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