09-08-2021, 12:49 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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More proof that Lindholm is a beast. What a great contract.
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09-08-2021, 01:16 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Interesting that only 4 players are positive.
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It's a list of forwards only. Turnovers often involve a forward losing the puck to an opposing defenceman. One would expect most defencemen to have ratios greater than 1.
I can't say I think much of these figures overall. The players who carry the puck most often have the most opportunity to turn it over, whereas every player has a chance of forcing a turnover when he hasn't got the puck. A ratio of these two numbers is about as informative as dividing apples by pears.
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09-08-2021, 06:47 PM
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#144
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GOAT!
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Last edited by FanIn80; 09-08-2021 at 06:52 PM.
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09-08-2021, 07:01 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
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This strikes me as a team/line style stat. Some combos prefer the D to carry or pass the puck out.
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09-08-2021, 07:21 PM
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#146
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
This strikes me as a team/line style stat. Some combos prefer the D to carry or pass the puck out.
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Nah it's simply because Looch is a God
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09-08-2021, 07:32 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
This strikes me as a team/line style stat. Some combos prefer the D to carry or pass the puck out.
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If the Flames were relying on Lucic to be the number one guy to pass the puck out of their zone last season, that explains why they missed the playoffs.
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09-08-2021, 08:34 PM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
If the Flames were relying on Lucic to be the number one guy to pass the puck out of their zone last season, that explains why they missed the playoffs.
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Way to miss the point.
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09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
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#149
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
If the Flames were relying on Lucic to be the number one guy to pass the puck out of their zone last season, that explains why they missed the playoffs.
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The Flames won just as many games in the Playoffs as the Oilers did.
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09-08-2021, 08:51 PM
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#150
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
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That passes the eye test.
I remember seeing a lot of Lucic zone exits last season.
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09-08-2021, 09:45 PM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Way to miss the point.
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I probably did miss the point of the stat. It seems meaningless to me.
What's the point of tracking it?
It doesn't tell us whether a player is good at passing out of the zone or not. It just says that they did it a lot, relative to their ice time.
I mean, we know that zone exits are a weakness in Lucic's game yet this stat would have someone who hasn't watched him play believing that he is one of the best in the league at exiting the zone with possession.
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09-08-2021, 10:31 PM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
I probably did miss the point of the stat. It seems meaningless to me.
What's the point of tracking it?
It doesn't tell us whether a player is good at passing out of the zone or not. It just says that they did it a lot, relative to their ice time.
I mean, we know that zone exits are a weakness in Lucic's game yet this stat would have someone who hasn't watched him play believing that he is one of the best in the league at exiting the zone with possession.
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You missed the point of my post.
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09-08-2021, 11:42 PM
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#153
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
I probably did miss the point of the stat. It seems meaningless to me.
What's the point of tracking it?
It doesn't tell us whether a player is good at passing out of the zone or not. It just says that they did it a lot, relative to their ice time.
I mean, we know that zone exits are a weakness in Lucic's game yet this stat would have someone who hasn't watched him play believing that he is one of the best in the league at exiting the zone with possession.
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You mean like someone who didn't read the stat chart where it has Lucic under Zone Exits via Pass, yet is complaining about it saying Looch is one of the best in the league at exiting with possession?
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09-09-2021, 12:05 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Is Lucic making the passes or passing it himself? I have a feeling this is mostly for cherry pickers or players too slow to make it back to their zone in time.
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09-09-2021, 01:22 AM
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#155
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bdubbs
More proof that Lindholm is a beast. What a great contract.
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How much would Lindholm get on the open market right now? I think it may start with at least a 7.
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09-09-2021, 04:37 AM
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#156
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Knightslayer
How much would Lindholm get on the open market right now? I think it may start with at least a 7.
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If he was a UFA today, he would have gotten an offer starting with a 9. It’s not often you could get a UFA that young. Some team would bite. He’s the player on the Flames who is most valuable.
I wouldn’t trade him straight up for Eichel, given his injury history.
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09-09-2021, 07:03 AM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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This is just more proof that the team needs to target a trade for Teddy Blugers
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09-09-2021, 11:09 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
You mean like someone who didn't read the stat chart where it has Lucic under Zone Exits via Pass, yet is complaining about it saying Looch is one of the best in the league at exiting with possession?
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It says he's one of the most frequent at exiting the zone with possession via pass.
I've seen stats guys kind of assume that the leaders in this categories are also the best at exiting the zone with possession.
That obviously isn't the case with Lucic. No way is he one of the best in the league at zone exits. Even when he used to be good, this was one of his weaknesses.
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09-09-2021, 11:13 AM
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#159
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
It says he's one of the most frequent at exiting the zone with possession via pass.
I've seen stats guys kind of assume that the leaders in this categories are also the best at exiting the zone with possession.
That obviously isn't the case with Lucic. No way is he one of the best in the league at zone exits. Even when he used to be good, this was one of his weaknesses.
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Actually, I see the opposite. Lucic is quite good at getting the puck out with a smart short pass from the wall. He has the odd flub, which gets a lot of attention, but he's quite an effective short passer in general.
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