09-04-2021, 06:51 PM
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#41
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by Groot
One of the firsts is guaranteed to Carolina though?
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No it isn't. They're receiving one of Montreal's two firsts, one of which previously belonged to Carolina.
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09-04-2021, 06:51 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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AZ probably is best able to firesale and tank. It’s not like they have a big fan base to placate.
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09-04-2021, 06:56 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Some people are going to be eating crow when he puts up big numbers.
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Yea nobody gets points in Arizona. Team has always been an offensive black hole.
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09-04-2021, 07:14 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I suppose he might go the path of Max Domi - big year after getting to Montreal, then a decline. But aside from that I’m hard pressed to think of another youngish player who’s blossomed after leaving AZ. Not Galchenyuk, Perlini, Cousins, Boedker etc.
Well, Dylan Strome but he hardly played for them.
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09-04-2021, 08:59 PM
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#45
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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I believe he will be an immediate improvement over KK (not hard to do) and may end up thriving in MTL (a la Lindholm in Calgary)
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09-04-2021, 09:15 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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So much for MTL fans dreams of offer sheeting Necas next year. The 1st in this trade will almost certainly be their own.
Edit: derp!
Last edited by Jacks; 09-04-2021 at 09:24 PM.
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09-04-2021, 09:19 PM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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09-04-2021, 09:19 PM
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#48
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Jacks
So much for MTL fans dreams of offer sheeting Necas next year. The 1st in this trade will almost certainly be their own.
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They can still offer sheet Necas. Any offer sheet for a player that becomes RFA after this season involves 2023 draft picks. The 2022 draft will happen before offer sheets can be submitted.
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09-04-2021, 09:22 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
He'll sell it for a profit in matter of days. The AZ real estate market is insanely hot right how. Stuff is selling over asking. A house is listed and a bidding war ensues in the few hours it is on the market. Don't feel bad for Dvorak. He's making money on the transaction.
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Maybe. He'll have to pay the extra realtor costs. Plus he's probably in the process of moving, if he can't stay in his current house he'll probably have to pay to put it all in storage and then live in a hotel for a month or two. I think the player gets paid for moving costs, not sure if storage before the move or hotel bills would be covered though.
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09-04-2021, 09:23 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
They can still offer sheet Necas. Any offer sheet for a player that becomes RFA after this season involves 2023 draft picks. The 2022 draft will happen before offer sheets can be submitted.
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Right, didn't think that one through all the way.
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09-04-2021, 10:03 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
It’s a bold decision and very direct approach.
Certainly jealous of the decisiveness of their path forward. No middle ground. It’s a very clear path forward towards the future.
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Detroit has been pulling this strategy for over 2 seasons now. Why not be jelly of them too?
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09-04-2021, 10:31 PM
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#52
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Rutuu
Detroit has been pulling this strategy for over 2 seasons now. Why not be jelly of them too?
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Detroit has the best GM in the league, so yeah, they’re also a team to be jealous of.
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09-04-2021, 10:33 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mikephoen
Detroit has the best GM in the league, so yeah, they’re also a team to be jealous of.
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If he does in Detroit what he did in Tampa, then yes.
But if he can't replicate that success, then one will have to wonder how much of what he did in Tampa was a combination of luck and the people he had around him.
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09-04-2021, 10:54 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I don't think Arizona has done anything close to this level of a firesale in recent memory.
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Uhh... 2015? Don't know if that's considered recent.
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09-04-2021, 10:56 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
Yea nobody gets points in Arizona. Team has always been an offensive black hole.
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I think that mainly had to do with coaching. They had Tippett and Tocchet.
Hopefully it's different now. I think Keller will be back to 60 points since they've no one else.
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09-04-2021, 11:29 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Coyotes have 8 first the next 2 seasons
They are probably gonna be so bad that their own are gonna be top 2 as well with the new rules
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09-04-2021, 11:41 PM
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#57
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Uhh... 2015? Don't know if that's considered recent.
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This summer they've traded OEL, Garland, Dvorak, Kuemper, and Hill.
In 2014-15 they traded Yandle, Vermette (who they immediately signed again the following summer), Dubnyk (who they had just acquired), and... Zbynek Michalek (who they also immediately signed again the following summer).
Don't think that's comparable.
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09-04-2021, 11:54 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Coyotes hoping to suck and get Wright and/or Bedard.
Odds are they probably get the McDavid/Eichel draft lottery treatment again, and walk away with Strome.
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09-05-2021, 12:38 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_phaneuf
Coyotes have 8 first the next 2 seasons
They are probably gonna be so bad that their own are gonna be top 2 as well with the new rules
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Fans in Houston are in for a real treat in a few years!
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09-05-2021, 07:59 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
So Kotkaneimi+ for Dvorak
Not sure that’s a win
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That is an absolute win if you are not rebuilding. Dvorak is criminally underrated here because people obviously don't know the player. Getting out of Arizona and into a market like Montreal you will soon.
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