Not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but Ryan Leslie recently appeared on the Rod Pedersen show (youtube), and stated that he has seen Buffalo's proposed price for Eichel from the Flames and that it is high and he would not pay it.
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Not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but Ryan Leslie recently appeared on the Rod Pedersen show (youtube), and stated that he has seen Buffalo's proposed price for Eichel from the Flames and that it is high and he would not pay it.
That sounds like the Flames sending out the message to fans Eichel isn't happening. Not super surprised.
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Not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but Ryan Leslie recently appeared on the Rod Pedersen show (youtube), and stated that he has seen Buffalo's proposed price for Eichel from the Flames and that it is high and he would not pay it.
Damn. Now I NEED to know what Flames players Buffalo has asked for so I can decide whether or not to be outraged
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Damn. Now I NEED to know what Flames players Buffalo has asked for so I can decide whether or not to be outraged
Brett Ritchie, the Flames' perpetual free agent rights to Michael Stone, and a third round pick.
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Not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but Ryan Leslie recently appeared on the Rod Pedersen show (youtube), and stated that he has seen Buffalo's proposed price for Eichel from the Flames and that it is high and he would not pay it.
This is pretty meaningless. Apparently, there's a pretty heated negotiation involving multiple parties going on. What are the Flames supposed to say: Yeah, I think Buffalo's price is pretty reasonable, we'll pay it eventually if they just grind us down some more.
I agree if it were roster players the Flames would has made the deal already. But giving up firsts and seconds is exactly what has landed this team in purgatory.
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I agree if it were roster players the Flames would has made the deal already. But giving up firsts and seconds is exactly what has landed this team in purgatory.
I think this could be true. Since all the rumours say their asking price is insanely high, I imagine Buffalo must be asking something like this from Calgary:
Zary/Coronato
2022 first round pick (unprotected)
2023 first round pick (unprotected)
Dube
Mangiapane
That kind of ask would be a hard no from Treliving.
Not sure if its been mentioned yet or not, but Ryan Leslie recently appeared on the Rod Pedersen show (youtube), and stated that he has seen Buffalo's proposed price for Eichel from the Flames and that it is high and he would not pay it.
Bullcrap. So we are to believe that Tre consulted Ryan Leslie on the asking price for Jack Eichel? Really? It was probably Eric Francis throwing out some BS and Leslie being the fanboy of Eric that he is he ran with it. I highly highly doubt anyone outside of management has had any sniff of what any ask is, certainly not to a guy connected to media. If Leslie really was privy to this info he would have blabbed it to Francis who would have tweeted it out by now because why wouldn't he? I think Leslie is full of something brown and smelly here.
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I think this could be true. Since all the rumours say their asking price is insanely high, I imagine Buffalo must be asking something like this from Calgary:
Zary/Coronato
2022 first round pick (unprotected)
2023 first round pick (unprotected)
Dube
Mangiapane
That kind of ask would be a hard no from Treliving.
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Sounds like a dream offer for Buffalo (though if the rumors about 6 pieces being required or true it might've been Zary & Coronato). We would be filling holes in our roster with plugs, and our best player would be on IR to start the season. They would almost guarantee a high pick from Calgary. Plus, between Gaudreau and Tkachuk, Calgary is not getting any cap relief next year, meaning more plugs and likely another poor result meaning another high Buffalo pick. 2 out of the 5 years of Eichel wasted, the cupboards bare of prospects, and if we can't win, we are not getting any talent to come here.
Most likely this is equivalent to what Buffalo has asked of any team that inquired, which is why it hasn't happened. Getting Eichel is exciting, but if it's pretty obvious that you are detonating a nuke on your roster for the next several years, only a fool GM would agree to that.
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Last minute is where the Eichel talk starts. The exact quote "i've seen it and I wouldn't pay it" is at the very end.
It's the same interview made the rounds last week, where Leslie defended Treliving's offseason and said it's hard to make moves etc.
FWIW I don't have anything against Ryan Leslie but I don't go to him for player analysis or trade value. He's a host. was a company man for a long time doing FlamesTV. In the same interview he said "this is a good core" which I think a lot of people in this community would raise their eyebrow at.
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We have distorted value opinions of Mangiapane and Coronato, as a group. IMO that ask should be an easy yes as it leaves us both Monahan and Tkachuk to recoup assets with if we choose. I dont think it works for us cap wise though.
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We have distorted value opinions of Mangiapane and Coronato, as a group. IMO that ask should be an easy yes as it leaves us both Monahan and Tkachuk to recoup assets with if we choose. I dont think it works for us cap wise though.
Any prospect and any roster player on the Flames right now could be traded, there are no untouchables.
The big no to me is TWO unprotected first round picks. Imagine being a lottery team for the next two years and gifting the Sabres Wright and Bedard? Or even giving them two top 5 picks would be bad enough.
The TWO unprotected first round picks are where I dry the line. Maybe you can give up one unprotected first round pick, but two, no way. The players and prospects are all meh.
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We have distorted value opinions of Mangiapane and Coronato, as a group. IMO that ask should be an easy yes as it leaves us both Monahan and Tkachuk to recoup assets with if we choose. I dont think it works for us cap wise though.
Giving up Zary and Mangiapane, multiple firsts for a guy having surgery? just no thanks at all. We would be Edmonton but not as good.
Yeast mode is at the top of the players you don’t give up list.
Giving up Zary and Mangiapane, multiple firsts for a guy having surgery? just no thanks at all. We would be Edmonton but not as good.
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Giving up our 4th highest scoring forward makes us Edmonton?
What a dumb take. Edmonton has 2 players then garbage. We would still have Eichel, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm (then Monahan=> RNH the oilers third best forward.) Not to mention better D and obviously goal.
So much Hyperbole!
Zary is nothing to this team yet. Again this is showing the split. People want to both compete now and build for the future, but what we are going to get is a consistent 15th place team that way.
Any prospect and any roster player on the Flames right now could be traded, there are no untouchables.
The big no to me is TWO unprotected first round picks. Imagine being a lottery team for the next two years and gifting the Sabres Wright and Bedard? Or even giving them two top 5 picks would be bad enough.
The TWO unprotected first round picks are where I dry the line. Maybe you can give up one unprotected first round pick, but two, no way. The players and prospects are all meh.
Agreed. I don't think any one of the physical pieces is a non-starter, its the fact that it is all those actual pieces plus two magic beans in what are poised to be excellent drafts. And simply selling more assets to get future pieces runs counter to acquiring eichel anyways, sinc eif the best we can do is maybe draft some quality talent in 24 and 25 we are out of Jack years before those players are even ready to play. Not to mention the cap situation we end up in for the next couple of years.
