08-28-2021, 04:42 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Because that was probably not the offer.
Considering this entire thing was a Cartman on Scott Tenorman levels of planned for petty revenge, I would not be shocked if the $20 bonus was non-negotiable.
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We will never know, but I doubt it
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08-28-2021, 04:43 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Habs should tell JK they are going to match.
Then throw his gear into the landfill, deactivate his pass to the building, and then wait until the seven days pass while doing nothing.
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08-28-2021, 04:43 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Not talking about the $6m per year (clearly the agent and player are happy)
I'm referring towards the $20 vs. Aho offer sheet.
Its clearly a shot at the Habs
He is going to get hundreds of questions around this...
Why not accept the contract at $6.1m with a larger bonus ...
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…because he probably doesn’t want to be a Hab anymore.
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08-28-2021, 04:44 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
…because he probably doesn’t want to be a Hab anymore.
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Oh I agree, thus it will be interesting if the Habs accept the offer sheet.
If I recall, offer sheet has only been successful one time
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08-28-2021, 04:44 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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As funny as this is, it seems pretty ill thought out for Carolina. They should have thanked the Canadiens for helping them get Aho under contract.
The Habs should not match and take the picks.
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08-28-2021, 04:45 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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lol, some people asking why he would sign this offer sheet, or that he needed extra motivation to sign it?
Haha
He signed it because it was $6 million and now he has a $6 million QO next off season or he'll be a free agent. And he's maybe worth $2 million right now, tops.
THAT is why he signed it.
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08-28-2021, 04:45 PM
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#87
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Not talking about the $6m per year (clearly the agent and player are happy)
I'm referring towards the $20 vs. Aho offer sheet.
Its clearly a shot at the Habs
He is going to get hundreds of questions around this...
Why not accept the contract at $6.1m with a larger bonus ...
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a $20 signing bonus is a small FU when you compare it to Aho's contract where 91% of the contract is paid out in signing bonuses.
The canes had to write a $11.3 mil cheque or 26% of the total contract's value to Aho as soon as they matched the contract
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08-28-2021, 04:47 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
a $20 signing bonus is a small FU when you compare it to Aho's contract where 91% of the contract is paid out in signing bonuses.
The canes had to write a $11.3 mil cheque or 26% of the total contract's value to Aho as soon as they matched the contract
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True, Aho however is an elite talent.
Totally different situations...
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08-28-2021, 04:56 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
why sign a 1 year deal like that?
Its clearly done as a counter to the Aho offer sheet.
Yikes, that's like throwing egg on the face of his current team.
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Realistically, what was he going to get from the Habs? 3 years at $2M per? They tripled his salary in one year. And whats worse, he's qualifying offer next year is set at even higher. So he has all the incentive in the world to sign this.and let's not forget, he was a healthy scratch for parts of the regular season. There's definitely no love lost between him and the Habs.
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08-28-2021, 04:58 PM
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#90
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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08-28-2021, 05:27 PM
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#91
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Is Kotkaniemi worth a 2nd pick at 6.1 M Cap hit
That becomes a salary dump for Montreal.
What would the Flames be prepared to give for Kotkanemi and his 6.1 cap hit and QO coming up next year? Not much more than a 2nd round pick I would think.
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08-28-2021, 05:30 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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I don't think the Habs are gonna match
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08-28-2021, 05:31 PM
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#93
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Is Kotkaniemi worth a 2nd pick at 6.1 M Cap hit
That becomes a salary dump for Montreal.
What would the Flames be prepared to give for Kotkanemi and his 6.1 cap hit and QO coming up next year? Not much more than a 2nd round pick I would think.
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Why a 2nd round pick?
Compensation is a 1st and 3rd.
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08-28-2021, 05:36 PM
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#94
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Why a 2nd round pick?
Compensation is a 1st and 3rd.
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I think the point is he is worth a 2nd or less at that salary so it’s no brainer to take the first and 3rd. If Montreal let’s him go and Carolina looks to trade him I’m not sure I’d trade much for him and his future QO issues.
If Montreal matches this it goes to show nhl gms might rank the worst in all of sports.
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08-28-2021, 05:56 PM
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#95
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Oh I get it, from the Hurricanes side.... Its a really good move
Player however, should have never agreed to the $20 bonus..
Huge mistake in my opinion
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For 3.5 million over your current value, you don’t agree to a $20 signing bonus?
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08-28-2021, 05:59 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Remember that one of the rules for offer sheets is if the Habs match, they can't trade him for 1 year from the date they notify the league of their decision.
They can't match it then flip him just to screw over the Canes.
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08-28-2021, 06:02 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Awesome.
If the Habs match they'll be $8 million over the cap with a 22 man roster.
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Sweet move!
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08-28-2021, 06:07 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Remember that one of the rules for offer sheets is if the Habs match, they can't trade him for 1 year from the date they notify the league of their decision.
They can't match it then flip him just to screw over the Canes.
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At 6.1 M he is un flippable.
Right now the Flames would likely trade Monahan for a 1st and 3rd. Monahan at 6.375 is just nominally over what Kotkaniemi is at 6.1 and QO.
Monahan playing injured put up 28 pts. Kotkaniemi put up 20.
Really what would the Flames give up for a 6.1 M Kotkaniemi? Not Dube or Valimaki or even Andersson.
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08-28-2021, 06:09 PM
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#99
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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08-28-2021, 06:12 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Does this have any impact on the Habs going after Eichel?
Are they more likely now because they lost a centre or are they less likely because JK was likely their best bargaining chip?
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