08-28-2021, 04:28 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Habs are not going to match, esp with the 20 mil signing bonus
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$20 signing bonus. not $20 million
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08-28-2021, 04:28 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Habs are not going to match, esp with the 20 mil signing bonus
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Its not $20 million. Its $20.
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08-28-2021, 04:29 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Habs are not going to match, esp with the 20 mil signing bonus
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It's not 20 million. It's $20.00
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08-28-2021, 04:30 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
…of course they’ll probably match, and the media/fans will turn on the player and they’ll eventually trade him anyways.
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I would think they will match, the fans and media will be all over the player....
Should be interesting
late 1st round pick is not enough for a player with his upside.
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08-28-2021, 04:30 PM
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#65
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
why sign a 1 year deal like that?
Its clearly done as a counter to the Aho offer sheet.
Yikes, that's like throwing egg on the face of his current team.
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They are making a rival worse either way. Either they add to their own impressive center depth with a kid who has the tools and mindset to be a top end player in the NHL, albeit over paid at this time. Or they cripple at rival's cap even further than it is already on fire.
This was incredibly measured by them. The worst case scenario is they have an over paid, but young with a lot of upside, center while the Habs have next to no one who can play center in the NHL, still being over the cap so they can't go out and get help and the anger of their fans for letting a young fan favourite go. And if he's dog ####, the Canes just walk away next season, for about the same cost they got for taking on Patrick Marleau's cap to buy him out.
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08-28-2021, 04:30 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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What’s canes cap space if Montreal declines?
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08-28-2021, 04:31 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
They are making a rival worse either way. Either they add to their own impressive center depth with a kid who has the tools and mindset to be a top end player in the NHL, albeit over paid at this time. Or they cripple at rival's cap even further than it is already on fire.
This was incredibly measured by them. The worst case scenario is they have an over paid, but young with a lot of upside, center while the Habs have next to no one who can play center in the NHL, still being over the cap so they can't go out and get help and the anger of their fans for letting a young fan favourite go. And if he's dog ####, the Canes just walk away next season, for about the same cost they got for taking on Patrick Marleau's cap to buy him out.
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Oh I get it, from the Hurricanes side.... Its a really good move
Player however, should have never agreed to the $20 bonus..
Huge mistake in my opinion
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08-28-2021, 04:31 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
I would think they will match, the fans and media will be all over the player....
Should be interesting
late 1st round pick is not enough for a player with his upside.
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Yeah but problem is you then pay $1M/goal
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08-28-2021, 04:33 PM
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#69
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Let the cycle of Pettiness continue!
Next year Habs offer sheet Necas.
Canes retaliate and offer sheet Suzuki.
Then Canes offer sheet Caulfield
Habs kidnap Seth Jarvis and brainwash him to believe his new identity is Alexandre Chapdelaine from Trois-Rivieres and sign a deal with the Habs.
Canes petition re-elected President Trump to nuke Montreal.
and so on
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So, no down side!
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08-28-2021, 04:34 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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I like others like the pettiness of it all. Bergevin seems like that self absorbed peer that gets on your nerves after awhile and this seems pretty personal. Anyway, he’s not worth that money at this moment, but I do believe if he’s surrounded by bigger guys he can develop rapidly into a Gaureau type. Montreal should walk away but to me because of his future potential he’s worth more than a low first and low third. Probably worth a middle first rounder.
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08-28-2021, 04:34 PM
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#71
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Oh I get it, for the Hurricanes side.... Its a really good move
Player however, should have never agreed to the $20 bonus..
Huge mistake in my opinion
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In what way? He just got a massive raise, I doubt he's gonna throw the brakes on because it'll hurt Bergevin's feefees. It's super rare that a player gets one over on an organization. He's getting ahead because of the pettiness of Waddell and if I was in his shoes I'd shrug and sign it too.
Or are you being facetious and I'm a dumbdumb.
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08-28-2021, 04:35 PM
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#73
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Habs are not going to match, esp with the 20 mil signing bonus
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20 dollar.
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08-28-2021, 04:35 PM
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#74
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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KK clearly felt dicked around by Montreal. Healthy scratched during the playoffs was a weird call at the time, and might have contributed to his willingness to sign this offersheet.
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08-28-2021, 04:35 PM
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#75
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In your enterprise AI
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Don't overlook the Canes Twitter bio
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08-28-2021, 04:37 PM
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#76
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
KK clearly felt dicked around by Montreal. Healthy scratched during the playoffs was a weird call at the time, and might have contributed to his willingness to sign this offersheet.
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I don't think it would have mattered. He just got a massive raise he was not going to get any other way. He makes out like a bandit one way or another, getting paid that wage or close to it until UFA or he gets to pick where he plays. They could treat him like the god damn prince, and he should still sign that OS.
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08-28-2021, 04:38 PM
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#77
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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The $20 signing bonus is poetry.
I don't like either of the teams involved — they've both showed their asses big-time this off-season — and I feel like this move makes them both worse, so I'm completely on-board.
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08-28-2021, 04:38 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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I love everything about this
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08-28-2021, 04:39 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
In what way? He just got a massive raise, I doubt he's gonna throw the brakes on because it'll hurt Bergevin's feefees. It's super rare that a player gets one over on an organization. He's getting ahead because of the pettiness of Waddell and if I was in his shoes I'd shrug and sign it too.
Or are you being facetious and I'm a dumbdumb.
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Not talking about the $6m per year (clearly the agent and player are happy)
I'm referring towards the $20 vs. Aho offer sheet.
Its clearly a shot at the Habs
He is going to get hundreds of questions around this...
Why not accept the contract at $6.1m with a larger bonus ...
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08-28-2021, 04:41 PM
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#80
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Why not accept the contract at $6.1m with a larger bonus ...
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Because that was probably not the offer.
Considering this entire thing was a Cartman on Scott Tenorman levels of planned for petty revenge, I would not be shocked if the $20 bonus was non-negotiable.
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