Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by blankall

The Flames don't need career years. They just need good two play and average offence across the roster.

Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Backlund, Mangiapane, Coleman, and Monahan all having just average seasons, puts the Flames offence near the top of the league. How many teams have 3 players at 70+ points and 4 players at 40-60 points. That kind of depth is actually pretty uncommon.

issue with the Flames is that they never seem to have everyone firing all at once.

Who are the 3 players who average 70+ points. I've got Guadreau. Lindholm , Monny and Tkachuk aren't close to 70 points.

Lindholm has done it once, based on PPG times 82. Monny twice and Tkachuk twice. But they are no were close to averaging close to 70, and none did it last year.

Those players get to 70 points having career type years getting premium PP time.

Flames were tied for 21st in the NHL last year, and 2nd last among Canadian teams. They have a huge gap to get to near the top of the league offence. And they are getting zero offence from their d-men too.

[djsFlames]

Consistent efforts in the details of the game can make up ground lost in the skill battle.

I think they're still an eichel and a good d-man away from having a shot to compete, even with strong execution.

Really wish we would just lock up one of those rather than play chicken until we lose out to someone else.

[D as in David]

For a number of seasons now, this has been a team that seemingly doesn't handle adversity well. When things go wrong or sideways, they haven't shown an ability to right the ship, IMO. I have to believe that Sutter will increase the mental toughness of this group.

[calgaryfox]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Consistent efforts in the details of the game can make up ground lost in the skill battle.

I think they're still an eichel and a good d-man away from having a shot to compete, even with strong execution.

Really wish we would just lock up one of those rather than play chicken until we lose out to someone else.

[Yobbo]

Man, I need to see either Gaudreau, signed to a long term, decent contract, or an Eichel, trade. What a long drawn out offseason.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Yobbo

Man, I need to see either Gaudreau, signed to a long term, decent contract, or an Eichel, trade. What a long drawn out offseason.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

You'll own nothing and be happy

Lol

[ForeverFlameFan]

I am really needing to temper my expectations, but there is still that glimmer of hope that Eichel is in a Flames sweater one day. Glad to know we're still in conversation with Buffalo.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

As a long time Flames fan, that does seem to be the rite of passage. Lol

[djsFlames]

Treliving is a jerk for waiting the longest possible time to do something meaningful (gaudreau extension/eichel bid).

It's like he wants us to suffer.

[topfiverecords]

The process of suffering is a privilege.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The process of suffering is a privilege.

Pretty bad when the most passionate discussion on this forum is the vaccine mandate and Dustin Penner

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by D as in David

For a number of seasons now, this has been a team that seemingly doesn't handle adversity well. When things go wrong or sideways, they haven't shown an ability to right the ship, IMO. I have to believe that Sutter will increase the mental toughness of this group.

Some if the players they have brought in should also help.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Some if the players they have brought in should also help.

Coleman. Who else I am missing?

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Coleman. Who else I am missing?

The flames also brought in a player who has played significant bottom 6 roles for Sutter during his 2 cups in LA in Trevor Lewis and we also brought in Zadarov and signed to a 1 year deal who will no doubt bring a heavier presence to the backend this year, one of the heaviest hitters in the league!

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Coleman. Who else I am missing?

I really like the Vladar pickup as I think he can become a solid backup at the very least.

I also don’t believe they will go into camp with the team as is. I think a big trade is coming, whether it’s for Eichel or not.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I really like the Vladar pickup as I think he can become a solid backup at the very least.

I also don’t believe they will go into camp with the team as is. I think a big trade is coming, whether it’s for Eichel or not.

If it's not Eichel, what other big trade would there be?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

The flames also brought in a player who has played significant bottom 6 roles for Sutter during his 2 cups in LA in Trevor Lewis and we also brought in Zadarov and signed to a 1 year deal who will no doubt bring a heavier presence to the backend this year, one of the heaviest hitters in the league!

I don’t think those 2 guys will have big enough role to change the way the team plays but yeah they add toughness, physical from Zadorov, maybe mental from Lewis

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Coleman. Who else I am missing?

Zadorov and Lewis

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

I really like the Vladar pickup as I think he can become a solid backup at the very least.

I also don’t believe they will go into camp with the team as is. I think a big trade is coming, whether it’s for Eichel or not.

We’re still going to have $3m in cap space left once Dube signs. I can’t see it being wasted. But you never know.