Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[jg13]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I think it's pretty clear that Eichel does NOT want to go to Buffalo.

Ninja edit.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by jg13

If Eichel makes it public that he wants to go to New York it gives Buffalo even more reason to send him to a place like Calgary

It is true.

Hope the disappointment isn't too great lol.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You said his inactivity came down to ...

"Either he wants too much or the Flames players do not have as much value as people think"

Plenty of other possibilities if you don't live on the dark side of every single issue.

Think my track record of not stating things as fact that aren't is pretty solid, thanks.

I am not questioning you at all.

Trying to defend myself being labeled as the bad guy on the dark side

Trust me that’s not where I want to be but it’s difficult 😞

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, IMO NYC is one of the greatest places to live. It’s dense but it’s not like you can’t get away pretty quickly to other areas from there. And the NYC advantages get even better when you have dough. Vegas too, for that matter.

I also get the attraction SJ has for older players. Nice family areas with relative anonymity.

The denseness of New York doesn't matter much when you get to live in a deluxe apartment in the sky.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The denseness of New York doesn't matter much when you get to live in a deluxe apartment in the sky.

Eichel would definitely be moving on up if traded to NY.

[CliffFletcher]

There are cities where very rich people who don’t have to work and can own homes anywhere in the world choose to live. New York is one of those cities (as are Miami, Tampa, LA, Boston, the San Fransisco Bay area, and Chicago). Calgary is not.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Slava

I don't know, I just played around with the tax tab on that site and for a guy making $10m a year (like Eichel) its over $1m a year to play in a few US places as compared to Calgary. It's easy to say "well you have $10m, so who cares!", but you know who actually cares? The guy paying an extra million in taxes.

It's a factor for sure, and I have no idea how people could think it's not.

If you read that Zadorov interview, take home pay is a big issue for these guys.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Just because some choose not to wallow in constant misery and whining like some of you doesn't mean that they are accepting of mediocrity. I think many have stated that they would support a full and proper re-build but also accept the reality that it is highly unlikely for this organization right now, regardless of who the GM is.

Wallow in constant misery and whining?

This is a message board where people come to talk about their team. There really isn't whole lot good to say about the current state. This is a bad team, until that changes people can comment on it as they like.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Wallow in constant misery and whining?

This is a message board where people come to talk about their team. There really isn't whole lot good to say about the current state. This is a bad team, until that changes people can comment on it as they like.

Never said they couldn't.

[Roof-Daddy]

With our luck we'll probably find out down the road that Treliving had a deal in place with the Sabres for Eichel, but after talking to Eichels camp was told that Jack had no interest in coming to Canada.

We'll hear about it after Eichel is dealt to Vegas where he gets his surgery, makes a full recovery, and goes back to being a point per game or better elite #1C.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

With our luck we'll probably find out down the road that Treliving had a deal in place with the Sabres for Eichel, but after talking to Eichels camp was told that Jack had no interest in coming to Canada.

We'll hear about it after Eichel is dealt to Vegas where he gets his surgery, makes a full recovery, and goes back to being a point per game or better elite #1C.

That or how BT just couldn't pay the extra 2nd round pick and just lost out on the value of the trade. Seems to be the way for BT and the team :/

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

With our luck we'll probably find out down the road that Treliving had a deal in place with the Sabres for Eichel, but after talking to Eichels camp was told that Jack had no interest in coming to Canada.

We'll hear about it after Eichel is dealt to Vegas where he gets his surgery, makes a full recovery, and goes back to being a point per game or better elite #1C.

He is under contract for 5 more years, it doesn't matter if he has no interest in playing in Canada. If that is the case you acquire him, let him get back to high levels and hopefully either he decides he isn't so opposed anymore or his trade value goes up to where it should be and you get a boatload return. He isn't going to sit out and lose $10M in salary a year by not playing. Get the player here first, then worry about if he wants to stay long term or not.

[Ashes]

[Toonage]

So, is that horse getting the fusion surgery or the artificial disc?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

That or how BT just couldn't pay the extra 2nd round pick and just lost out on the value of the trade. Seems to be the way for BT and the team :/

Is there an actual example of this?

[Ashes]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So, is that horse getting the fusion surgery or the artificial disc?

The farmer won't let him get either, its kind of a long story

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He is under contract for 5 more years, it doesn't matter if he has no interest in playing in Canada. If that is the case you acquire him, let him get back to high levels and hopefully either he decides he isn't so opposed anymore or his trade value goes up to where it should be and you get a boatload return. He isn't going to sit out and lose $10M in salary a year by not playing. Get the player here first, then worry about if he wants to stay long term or not.

If his camp says "don't bother trading for him, he will just hold out for another trade to a desired destination" then you'd have to be an idiot to trade for him.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

If his camp says "don't bother trading for him, he will just hold out for another trade to a desired destination" then you'd have to be an idiot to trade for him.

You'd have to be a bigger idiot to not play and lose 10m per year.

[Ashasx]

Eichel is young, elite #1 centre.

Why don't the Sabres just keep him, I wonder then? He'd be an idiot to not play and lose $10M per year.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Eichel is young, elite #1 centre.

Why don't the Sabres just keep him, I wonder then? He's be an idiot to not play and lose $10M per year.

I know this is tongue in cheek but the personalities thing is obviously at play here. There is a rift between Eichel, Management and more importantly Ownership of the Sabres. The pegulas don't want him there anymore.