[Signing] Oilers sign Darnell Nurse to extension beginning in 2022 (8 yrs, $9.25 mil AAV)

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You like your team - cool.

How do you feel about $9.25M AAV for Nurse? (seeing how this is a thread about Nurse's contract and all)

I thought “Rising Oil Prices” WAS the comment on the contract…

[Newton]

End of Season: The Oilers are terrible, but they enter the off-season with a bunch of salary cap to fix what is wrong.

Offseason The Oilers have solved what was wrong by paying the players they had last year more money.

[GioforPM]

Improvement to the forward depth is a bit overstated. Doc is a marginal improvement in the bottom six. Hyman improves the top six ONLY if he manages to separate McDrai. If not, the team is no better up top.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Improvement to the forward depth is a bit overstated. Doc is a marginal improvement in the bottom six. Hyman improves the top six ONLY if he manages to separate McDrai. If not, the team is no better up top.

I predict their first 2 lines will be



Mc - Drai - Hy
poo - Tender - Yam

[dino7c]

95% of the hockey world Cup thinks this is a bad deal...it's not just Flames fans

[jg13]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Improvement to the forward depth is a bit overstated. Doc is a marginal improvement in the bottom six. Hyman improves the top six ONLY if he manages to separate McDrai. If not, the team is no better up top.

Don't forget Warren Foegle is good for 10 goals!

[PeteMoss]

Kudos to the Oilers fan for saving us - we were sniping with each other over WAR charts and now we can reunite against a common enemy.

Mods should have plant Oilers fans accounts to post when things start getting feisty around here.

[Sofa GM]

I just don’t think it has been processed by the fan boys yet how bad this could actually be. Their window is this year, then it’s basically over.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Kudos to the Oilers fan for saving us - we were sniping with each other over WAR charts and now we can reunite against a common enemy.

Mods should have plant Oilers fans accounts to post when things start getting feisty around here.

Damn. You're on to us.

Back to the drawing board.

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[ForeverFlameFan]

The worst part about this contract? It hasn’t even kicked in yet. They couldn’t have waited until they saw some playing time from this season before signing a deal?

Kudos to Nurse’s agent. This was the perfect time to get him an extension.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I predict their first 2 lines will be



Mc - Drai - Hy
poo - Tender - Yam

Right. My point has always been that unless you can split up Draisaitl and McDavid, Hyman doesn’t add any significant offence (and he’s not a particularly good defensive player so he doesn’t help them there).

Now, if you argue that he can play on Draisaitl’s wing or take his place on the wing, that’s a different story.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices

I've been reading this forum for awhile, and while I do agree with much of what you say as a whole, especially about the Flames, you are all blind with hatred when it comes to the Oilers. Yes, I am an Oilers fan, and as an oilers fan, I am not blown away by the off season... however, I also can see how much the team has improved especially on the forward depth, something you guys have mocked for years. Now we sign our best Dman to a multi year contract locking in the core of the team for 4+ years (McD, Drai, Nuge, Hyman, Nurse) and all u hear is criticism of Holland.

You can call me Homer Simpson if you like, but I like the Oilers this year to be a top 10 team at the minimum, maybe top 5. I haven't said that ever in past seasons.

So I'm not a Flames fan. I came here because their AHL team relocated to where I lived 10+ years ago. But I have enjoyed this community and stuck around. I say that so you can understand the perspective I come from. The BOA is not something I care about.

From my perspective the deal still stinks. Way too much money. I was a longtime Wings fan until Ken Holland ran them into the ground. The man has no idea how to build a team. That was very apparent in Detroit once the team he inherited needed work.

I get wanting to be excited for your team. I would just try and temper expectations under Holland. And yeah, these guys do have a pretty big blind spot regarding the Oilers and Canucks. Rivalries will do that to fans. But if I want solid analysis on a trade between Florida and Arizona or a free agent signing in Columbus, I can count on it here.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by jg13

Don't forget Warren Foegle is good for 10 goals!

And if he isn't, then IT'S ALL HIS FAULT!

see Rieder, Toby.

[CaptainCrunch]

Now we sign our best Dman to a multi year contract locking in the core of the team for 4+ years (McD, Drai, Nuge, Hyman, Nurse) and all u hear is criticism of Holland.

I don't know if that's a core that you want to lock in for 4+ years. I mean its a pretty failed core for how flashy it is. McD and Drai you can argue about locking money up for long term, they are so called super core players.

Nuge is a bit of a failure. He looked like butt in the playoffs, he's decent defensively but he's soft as butter. Hyman, the first couple of years of his deal could be good but after that he could drop based on the nature of his play. Nurse, to me isn't really an elite 9+ million long term player, last year feels like an outlier and I feel that he will be the most hated player in Edmonton with an albatross contract. Especially if you are giving him number one blueliner minutes. He's not that positionally sound guy. He had a way over blown shooting percentage last year, and he still reminds me of Denis Gauthier with better offensive skills.

Are the Oilers better up front sure, but the offensive part of the game, really wasn't the problem, and they didn't really address the problem which was play without the puck.

That blueline is a dead pool of death for that team. And your one 40 year old case of a hamstring pull from disaster or even if Smith goes from his god mode to mere mortal your team is going to be outside looking in.

Add to that, lets be somewhat real, this is going to be a tougher schedule this year, with tougher opponents. I think the Oilers were exposed as feasting on weak teams and starving against good teams.

[Locke]

RNH just took a huge discount.

Prepare for him to be a player that just punches his time-card.

He is there to collect a cheque and that is it. He is not invested or driving your team forward.

Taking a discount with Edmonton was basically the last sigh of resignation.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by dobbles

So I'm not a Flames fan. I came here because their AHL team relocated to where I lived 10+ years ago. But I have enjoyed this community and stuck around. I say that so you can understand the perspective I come from. The BOA is not something I care about.

From my perspective the deal still stinks. Way too much money. I was a longtime Wings fan until Ken Holland ran them into the ground. The man has no idea how to build a team. That was very apparent in Detroit once the team he inherited needed work.

I get wanting to be excited for your team. I would just try and temper expectations under Holland. And yeah, these guys do have a pretty big blind spot regarding the Oilers and Canucks. Rivalries will do that to fans. But if I want solid analysis on a trade between Florida and Arizona or a free agent signing in Columbus, I can count on it here.

Holland as a GM has never really built anything. Detroit’s success has always been from Jimmy Devallano on out. He brought in Brian Murray, Scotty Bowman etc. and learned under Bill Torrey. Holland was a part of Devallano’s machine and obvious not the brightest bulb in the circuit as Jim Nill has accomplished exponentially better work in Dallas.

Much like Chiarelli, Holland was the worst choice as a GM. Another Oiler shortcut seduced by past glory. Bill Guerin would have been a better pick, but he probably didn’t tell the 80’s Glory Boys what they wanted to hear.

Holland has turned them into a bubble team and locked them into a corner to do it. Yippy!!

As far as Oiler and Canuck blind spots here. Read and believe what you want, but everyone here capable of critical thought realizes they have two elite offensive talents while also understanding their defensive limitations.

Are they the worst? No? Are they close to a contending team No.

They’re locked into the mushy middle for the foreseeable future while they squander elite talent, which is the best case scenario for rival fans.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Holland as a GM has never really built anything. Detroit’s success has always been from Jimmy Devallano on out. He brought in Brian Murray, Scotty Bowman etc. and learned under Bill Torrey. Holland was a part of Devallano’s machine and obvious not the brightest bulb in the circuit as Jim Nill has accomplished exponentially better work in Dallas.

Much like Chiarelli, Holland was the worst choice as a GM. Another Oiler shortcut seduced by past glory. Bill Guerin would have been a better pick, but he probably didn’t tell the 80’s Glory Boys what they wanted to hear.

Holland has turned them into a bubble team and locked them into a corner to do it. Yippy!!

As far as Oiler and Canuck blind spots here. Read and believe what you want, but everyone here capable of critical thought realizes they have two elite offensive talents while also understanding their defensive limitations.

Are they the worst? No? Are they close to a contending team No.

They’re locked into the mushy middle for the foreseeable future while they squander elite talent, which is the best case scenario for rival fans.

Agreed regarding the Wings. Nill coming to Dallas and us relocating to Tulsa not long after is what motivated me to pick a new team after 20 years. Things haven't been perfect for Nill, but he takes some shots and does actually give reason for hope.

Regarding blindspots, I agree most here can see things fair, it just often gets drowned out by the e=ng talk. I think a lot of it is the fact that you guys haven't had much success either so you project a lot of that eternal pessimism onto your rivals moves!

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You like your team - cool.

How do you feel about $9.25M AAV for Nurse? (seeing how this is a thread about Nurse's contract and all)

Honestly, I think it's a slight overpay but we're talking about our best Dman hitting his prime. I wish Edmonton was a destination of choice for free agents but reality says it's not and overpays are often needed to sign a player. And that's not counting the tax situation compared to a place like Fla or Vegas. I am not saying holland hit it out of the park, but I think when you look at the overall picture, he did a reasonable job.

[Rising_Oil_Prices]

Originally Posted by Locke

Haaaaave you seen their goaltending?

One guy couldnt catch a Beach Ball and the other one uses his goalie stick as a makeshift cane.

This aint your granpappy's truncated COVID season where you only play the same half-dozen teams over and over again.

Obviously goaltending is a concern but only because of Smith's age. If he plays anything like he did last year, goaltending will not be a big issue. Remember, last year also, everyone was saying he was too old. He played well throughout the year and playoffs.

[CaptainCrunch]

Slight over pay. come on now. Its a massive overpay with a player controlled no trade no movement, and long term.


Holland basically won none of that negotiation. And you're paying Nurse like he's a top 2 or 3 defenseman in the NHL after one outlier season with a monstrous outlier shooting percentage. And a guy who when Connor isn't on the ice is not that good.


If he's a top 10 defenseman in the league its a stretch, but again its after an outlier season. If he regresses even on shooting percentage, which he will. It becomes a boat anchor of a contract with zero escape.



but its not a slight overpayment.