08-05-2021, 09:35 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Zadorov arb date set for Aug 26. The last possible date
https://www.nhlpa.com/news/1-22163/2...-hearing-dates
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08-05-2021, 05:58 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Fabbro signed 2 x $2.4M
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08-05-2021, 06:15 PM
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#23
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I doubt it goes to arbitration. I expect a 4 year deal for about $17- 18M.
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08-09-2021, 07:46 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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08-09-2021, 07:55 AM
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#25
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think he could do both. He needs upper body strength to do his job. But he really needs skating technique. Which is probably going to be tough coming out of surgery.
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Care to offer a breakdown on the weaknesses, opportunities and what should be the areas of focus?
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08-09-2021, 08:07 AM
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#27
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I doubt it goes to arbitration. I expect a 4 year deal for about $17- 18M.
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Who are you talking about? Surely not Nikita Zadorov...
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08-09-2021, 09:46 AM
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#28
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
Care to offer a breakdown on the weaknesses, opportunities and what should be the areas of focus?
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No, but in general, he doesn’t lack fitness or strength. He may not be genetically disposed to great speed, but a good skating coach can get more out of him, just like with, say, Mark Stone or Point. Barb Underhill could get him up to average NHL speed I bet.
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08-09-2021, 11:47 AM
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#29
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Originally Posted by timun
Who are you talking about? Surely not Nikita Zadorov...
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What do you think he will get if Calgary signs him for a longer period?
He was asking for 6 years and (IIRC) close to $6M AAV from Chicago.
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08-09-2021, 11:52 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
No, but in general, he doesn’t lack fitness or strength. He may not be genetically disposed to great speed, but a good skating coach can get more out of him, just like with, say, Mark Stone or Point. Barb Underhill could get him up to average NHL speed I bet.
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How come Tkachuk and Monahan are not getting any faster?
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08-09-2021, 11:53 AM
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#31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
What do you think he will get if Calgary signs him for a longer period?
He was asking for 6 years and (IIRC) close to $6M AAV from Chicago.
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He wasn't asking 6M AVV, he mentioned in his interview that was a bunch of bunk coming from one of the reporters.
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08-09-2021, 11:53 AM
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#32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
What do you think he will get if Calgary signs him for a longer period?
He was asking for 6 years and (IIRC) close to $6M AAV from Chicago.
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He already said in the now famous interview that report is inaccurate. That's where the "he knows his worth" comments are coming from.
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08-09-2021, 11:55 AM
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#33
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Like Bennett, he exploded after the trade
Before that team wins
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08-09-2021, 11:59 AM
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#34
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
Who are you talking about? Surely not Nikita Zadorov...
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$4.25-4.5 mil AAV sounds pretty reasonable to me. Maybe a little higher than I'd like but what do you think sounds reasonable?
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08-09-2021, 12:02 PM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
$4.25-4.5 mil AAV sounds pretty reasonable to me. Maybe a little higher than I'd like but what do you think sounds reasonable?
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Brandon Carlo signed 6x4.1M
Zadorov is not worth more than that.
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08-09-2021, 12:26 PM
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#36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
Brandon Carlo signed 6x4.1M
Zadorov is not worth more than that.
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Hoping to see a 3 handle (assuming a shorter term deal), but would be very happy with 6 x $4.1
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08-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
What do you think he will get if Calgary signs him for a longer period?
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I wouldn't want Zadorov signed long-term...
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Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
$4.25-4.5 mil AAV sounds pretty reasonable to me. Maybe a little higher than I'd like but what do you think sounds reasonable?
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I didn't know he was making $3.2M the last couple years, which is already ridiculous money for what he brings to the table. He's big and can hit, but in the games I watched against the Avalanche a couple years ago he was often out of position and prone to gaffes, and has limited offensive skills. Reading a little bit from Blackhawks reporters and bloggers it sounds like he was still the same player last year.
Honestly, given he doesn't look like anything better than a bottom-pairing defenceman, I wouldn't have acquired him in the first place. Frankly he looks like a replacement-level player to me.
A couple years at somewhere less than $4M AAV is really all I'd offer him, and even then I think that's a big waste of money.
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08-09-2021, 01:03 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
I wouldn't want Zadorov signed long-term...
I didn't know he was making $3.2M the last couple years, which is already ridiculous money for what he brings to the table. He's big and can hit, but in the games I watched against the Avalanche a couple years ago he was often out of position and prone to gaffes, and has limited offensive skills. Reading a little bit from Blackhawks reporters and bloggers it sounds like he was still the same player last year.
Honestly, given he doesn't look like anything better than a bottom-pairing defenceman, I wouldn't have acquired him in the first place. Frankly he looks like a replacement-level player to me.
A couple years at somewhere less than $4M AAV is really all I'd offer him, and even then I think that's a big waste of money.
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If only young defensemen could improve over time.
He is not a replacement level defenseman. And he won't get paid like one.
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08-09-2021, 01:30 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
If only young defensemen could improve over time.
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He's 26, hardly a young pup, and he didn't improve last year.
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He is not a replacement level defenseman.
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What is it that you see in him that I don't?
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And he won't get paid like one.
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Of that I have no doubt, even though it'll be a mistake. Realistically I'm guessing 3 yrs @ 4$M per, and that's a good $1-2M more than it really ought to be.
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08-09-2021, 01:34 PM
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#40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
He's 26, hardly a young pup, and he didn't improve last year.
What is it that you see in him that I don't?
Of that I have no doubt, even though it'll be a mistake. Realistically I'm guessing 3 yrs @ 4$M per, and that's a good $1-2M more than it really ought to be.
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Still pretty young for defensemen, who typically hit their prime in heir late 20s. And you were referring to observations from a couple years ago, when he was 24, which definitely IS a 'young pup'.
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