Why wouldn’t they trade him if there is a good deal when they desperately need a shake up and they can’t sign him?
That’s all I have folks. Don’t pretend this is something more than an internet discussion board
It has been mentioned. An agreement could be done in principle, which is what it sounds like from the people close to the team, and the finer details could depend on anything that happens this off season. Pure speculation, but maybe he signs longer term to bring down AAV if Eichel comes here.
At the end of the day there is nothing really obvious about the contract situation. An obvious situation would be that Eichel looks like he is done Buffalo.
It has been mentioned. An agreement could be done in principle, which is what it sounds like from the people close to the team, and the finer details could depend on anything that happens this off season. Pure speculation, but maybe he signs longer term to bring down AAV if Eichel comes here.
I must have missed this, which people close to the team have indicated that Johnny has a deal in principle?
And secondly, if that is correct, I find it unlikely that Johnny would agree to any deal that's less than 8 years.
He didn't say that Johnny had a deal in principle, but Steinberg (who seems to be in the know when it comes to Johnny) said in his July 26 article that he believes a deal will get done, and that he's believed this for some time now. He sounded very certain.
Johnny Gaudreau’s future in Calgary is perhaps the team’s biggest storyline this summer, of which there are many. It has been my belief for some time Gaudreau and the Flames would end up agreeing on an extension, and that remains the case today. I believe it’ll happen and if/when it does, assuming a fair deal for both sides, I think it’ll be a good thing for the organization and the city.
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“ I believe it’ll happen and if/when it does, assuming a fair deal for both sides...”
Hmmm!
If, when...assuming?
Yeah he's assuming it's close to being done but many a talks have derailed at the last minute. The closer it gets to the regular season the closer it gets to the end of Johnny's Flames career. Until there's a deal, there's not a deal.
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If they are close to extending Gaudreau, that means Tkachuk is on the way out. If not this summer, then next.
It will be a huge win if they can ink Gaudreau for under 9 million per. It's probably going to come to 9 or even 9.5 million. Tkachuk's QO is going to be 9, and if he has a good season we can expect 9.5 for him. The Flames can't afford 18/19 million on the LW. Especially when we need to upgrade C and D.
I'm sure this could have been done already if Trelieving went full Holland and overpaid by $3mil a year.
Hey we are looking for a 1C, why don’t we just use the Oiler method and extend Lindholm’s contract for an 8 yr - $88MM, $11MM AAV……… if you pay it, it will come.
Kinda feels like the longer this drags on, the less likely Buffalo moves him at all. If they had offers for what they're asking then he'd be traded by now.
They're nowhere near approaching a playoff spot, so it's not like they suffer much more with Eichel delayed in starting the season due to surgery/recovery. My guess at this point is the two sides make peace and he still is with Buffalo next season.
Kinda feels like the longer this drags on, the less likely Buffalo moves him at all. If they had offers for what they're asking then he'd be traded by now.
They're nowhere near approaching a playoff spot, so it's not like they suffer much more with Eichel delayed in starting the season due to surgery/recovery. My guess at this point is the two sides make peace and he still is with Buffalo next season.
Then he won't play all season. The Sabres aren't giving him the greenlight to get his surgery.
That would be just about the weirdest/worst thing Buffalo could do. They would absolutely crater their asset if they held onto him at this stage, because it would mean he'd be sitting out an entire season. I also feel it's incredibly unlikely that Eichel would report to camp even if he can play without surgery. It would also be a media circus and would put a cloud firmly over the organization, and I imagine the NHLPA would start to get involved given the disagreement on the surgery.
I don't see Eichel returning to Buffalo under any circumstances.
Then he won't play all season. The Sabres aren't giving him the greenlight to get his surgery.
That would be just about the weirdest/worst thing Buffalo could do. They would absolutely crater their asset if they held onto him at this stage, because it would mean he'd be sitting out an entire season. I also feel it's incredibly unlikely that Eichel would report to camp even if he can play without surgery. It would also be a media circus and would put a cloud firmly over the organization, and I imagine the NHLPA would start to get involved given the disagreement on the surgery.
I don't see Eichel returning to Buffalo under any circumstances.
If Buffalo doesn’t get the return they want, I could see them granting him his surgery just before the season starts. It would also keep Eichel away from the team for quite some time while he re-habs.
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Then he won't play all season. The Sabres aren't giving him the greenlight to get his surgery.
That would be just about the weirdest/worst thing Buffalo could do. They would absolutely crater their asset if they held onto him at this stage, because it would mean he'd be sitting out an entire season. I also feel it's incredibly unlikely that Eichel would report to camp even if he can play without surgery. It would also be a media circus and would put a cloud firmly over the organization, and I imagine the NHLPA would start to get involved given the disagreement on the surgery.
I don't see Eichel returning to Buffalo under any circumstances.
Yeah, I'm starting to wonder the legal repercussions if he just says "screw it" and gets the surgery, If Buffalo stops paying him would he just become a free agent?
He will have been gameless in over a year and possibly still needing surgery, I can't see how this inflates his value.
cap hit is more manageable, and he is a late season addition - would be a huge boost to any PP
plus, giving up picks and futures is always more palatable at the deadline, when the playoffs are looming and the draft is months away (and you know for sure that you are going to be in the playoffs and don't have to worry about lottery picks)
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Yeah, that seems to make sense. The relationship is completely broken and Buffalo will only be doing what they can to maximize leverage and get the best deal they can. They aren't in hurry having just completely dismantled their team.
They will also have a better idea of what teams have the more valuable 1st rounders at that point. The only downside is that teams that look lottery bound at that point probably aren't going to want to include their 1st rounder in any deal.
When is Kaiser Adams back from his Norwegian cruise anyway?
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I imagine the NHLPA would start to get involved given the disagreement on the surgery.
The NHLPA is already involved. They agree to the list of medical experts and surgeons that the players get to pick from. They agreed that if a player is to go outside that list that it would then have to be agreed upon by the team who owns the rights to that player.
I would like to point out that the Sabres doctor is not some GP with no idea what he's talking about. This is an expert in his field of spinal surgery.
Dr. Andrew Cappuccino received his undergraduate education in biomedical and material science engineering at Johns Hopkins University, and medical schooling at the University of Buffalo, Dr. Cappuccino completed a residency in Orthopedic Surgery. He became Board Certified in Orthopedics, and then returned to Johns Hopkins to complete specialty training in spine surgery. Dr. Cappuccino is one of the first surgeons in the country to be certified by the American Board of Spine Surgery, and is a inaugural member of this board.
Dr. Cappuccino has also served on the medical staff of the Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres for more than 25 years, and in this capacity has returned professional athletes with spine injuries, back to the field. As the attending surgeon who operated on paralyzed Buffalo Bill Kevin Everett and who then coordinated his care, he was nationally recognized for Mr. Everett’s recovery.
Dr. Cappuccino has been a principle investigator on international teams of doctors who have developed artificial disc replacements for the neck and back.
Dr. Cappuccino has performed more disc replacements than any other surgeon in the USA. He is internationally in demand to teach spine surgery techniques and, through his research, is dedicated to improving spinal surgery outcomes and technologies.
For those who don't know the Kevin Everett story, here it is.
The hit that left him as a quadriplegic:
The road to recovery.
This guy made it possible for Everett to walk again. This guy knows what's he's talking about. He's the guy the surgeons go to when they need surgery.
This guy is so good they named a cup of coffee after him!
In all seriousness, Dr. Cappuccino's credentials are at the top of his field. He's examined Eichel many times and has worked with him to come up with a plan to address his injury. I know he's not doing the podcast circuit, but I would put my trust in this guy.
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