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Old 08-06-2021, 03:09 PM   #121
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thats IT? i thought he would be in the 10.75 range.

Nice Work Holland
lol Oilers fans are the best.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:12 PM   #122
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I still can't believe this is real. It's like watching olympics at 4am kind of numbness.
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lol Oilers fans are the best.
so Kenny's got a burner account? Nice.
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For the following year, there is less than $8mm in cap space to split amongst.....

1) pool party
2) yams
3) a 1a goalie to share duty with Smith
4) a 6th defenseman
5) and an entire bottom 6 forward line
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:20 PM   #125
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so there's 2 Docs in Edmonton now?
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:28 PM   #126
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so there's 2 Docs in Edmonton now?
When they are both on the ice the fans call them Scrubs
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One good season full of goals against the Sens ECHL goalies and with McDavid feeding him points
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:32 PM   #128
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Everything is designed to win in the next 3 years. It's honestly not that terrible a strategy
With 40 year old Mike Smith in goal? They got swept in round one and might be slightly better if Smith has another career season.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:32 PM   #129
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I liked Nurses game last year, but my god that deal shocked me ! He sucks in his own zone for the most part and his offensive numbers are inflated by the 8 million dollar man and Mconemanteam.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:34 PM   #130
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Am I looking at this properly?? Does this make him the third highest cap hit defenseman in the league? Dude has the *checks notes* second highest cap hit on the team?? Higher than Leon Draisaitl???

Holy #### Holland, that's nuts.
Yes to all. He’s obviously better than Makar, Pietrangelo, Hamilton, Heiskenan, Chabot, etc.
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When they are both on the ice the fans call them Scrubs
Cue Mcdavid singing “I can’t do this all on my own….”
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so there's 2 Docs in Edmonton now?
I wondered if in this tweet "doc" was short for "document"? It works, but it's dumb.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:41 PM   #133
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What's going to be awesome is when Andersson outscores Nurse. This will be a contract that hangs around the Oilers' neck for almost a decade, more when they have to buy him out. Holland is an idiot. If it weren't for Francis he would be the worst GM in the league.
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:42 PM   #134
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For the following year, there is less than $8mm in cap space to split amongst.....

1) pool party
2) yams
3) a 1a goalie to share duty with Smith
4) a 6th defenseman
5) and an entire bottom 6 forward line
Yams had 47 points in his last 79 games too. It’s not out of the question he could get 2 years around $3 mil. If they want him long term it’s going to be over $4mil maybe close to $5 mil

They could sign him to a 1 year deal could be around $2 mil but if he had a good year that will cost even more next summer

If yams deal is over $3 per even if klefbom retires they will have about $9 mil and 15 guys signed with not a whole lot of prospect forwards even close to nhl ready. Seems like that is where they will need bodies

Also if smith falls off a cliff this year they could need 2 goalies next summer

They need to be cup contenders now or they are in serious trouble
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:43 PM   #135
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:46 PM   #136
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Seriously dude, you need to change your name to Oiler Lover or something.
Uh no, but I try to look at it from the Oilers perspective.

McDavid has 5 years left; Drai 4. They should be mortgaging their future to go all in and get good players to play with McDrai for the next 4 years. Use all your 2025+ picks and cap space to win now. If you don't, McDavid/Drai will leave and you will have wasted your golden ticket. That should be the plan, and them acting within that plan makes a lot of sense.

They've already wasted 6 years of McDavid having him play with no-talent sucks like Neal, Chiasson, Kassian, Archibald. On the back end, their best players have been Kris Russell, Klefbom, Sekera, and Larsson. That's a lot of suck.

This deal is a big overpay, but a) they need good players on their team now. b) the worst part of the contract will be in years 4+. This reasoning also shows why the Hyman signing is smart for them. Ceci is terrible though.
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Has the NHL released what the 2022/23 salary cap will be at?

I look at what the Oilers have committed for 22/23, and the player's they'll need to re-sign, and it looks to me like unless the salary cap is 90M they're screwed next summer.


Edit: I read it's projected at 82.5M

McDavid 12.500
Draisaitl 8.500
Hyman 5.500
Nugent-Hopkins 5.125
Kassian 3.200
Foegele 2.750
Ryan 1.250
Shore .850
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Nurse 9.250
Keith 5.540
Barrie 4.500
Ceci 3.250
Bouchard .865
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Smith 2.200

Retained .750 (Lucic)
Buyouts 3.42 (Sekera & Neal)

= 69.45M
= 13.05M Cap Space

You assume each of Puljujarvi & Yamamoto will get 4M. That leaves 5M for the Oilers to sign 6 depth players & a starting goaltender (unless they think 41 year old Smith is their starter?) - it's not possible.

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Old 08-06-2021, 03:54 PM   #138
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Uh no, but I try to look at it from the Oilers perspective.

McDavid has 5 years left; Drai 4. They should be mortgaging their future to go all in and get good players to play with McDrai for the next 4 years. Use all your 2025+ picks and cap space to win now. If you don't, McDavid/Drai will leave and you will have wasted your golden ticket. That should be the plan, and them acting within that plan makes a lot of sense.

They've already wasted 6 years of McDavid having him play with no-talent sucks like Neal, Chiasson, Kassian, Archibald. On the back end, their best players have been Kris Russell, Klefbom, Sekera, and Larsson. That's a lot of suck.

This deal is a big overpay, but a) they need good players on their team now. b) the worst part of the contract will be in years 4+. This reasoning also shows why the Hyman signing is smart for them. Ceci is terrible though.
Are they good enough to win a cup? because this is it...they have no cap space for anything else

IMO the goaltending and D isn't even close to cup contending. Smith comes back to earth and they are a bubble team.
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Nurse will cost more than Makar and also has a higher cap hit than Girard and D. Toews combined
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My ears when you realize that 3 players on the Oilers are taking up 30.25 Million in cap space:


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