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Old 07-31-2021, 05:47 PM   #41
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Dube type production to this point, could go either way.

To be fair Holland did good work up front.

But it came at the cost of neglecting the backend, then trying to make up for that with ####y acquisitions.

So as a result the team is a total dumpster fire from the 7th forward or so down, instead of the 4th forward. Great work.
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Old 07-31-2021, 08:23 PM   #43
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Dube type production to this point, could go either way.

To be fair Holland did good work up front.

But it came at the cost of neglecting the backend, then trying to make up for that with ####y acquisitions.

So as a result the team is a total dumpster fire from the 7th forward or so down, instead of the 4th forward. Great work.
The oilers forwards are no question upgraded and they might be able to play 3 lines that are all decent lines. Question is though if they do it comes at a cost to mcdavid and Leon’s ice time. If they continue to play 4 guys 97 percent of the teams total pp time and double shift 2 players all it does is waste decent players. They also need to split up the big 2 IMO as the rest of the good players they got are complementary players or grinders.

IMO they should have blown their wad on defence and goalies. If they had good defence and goalies they could be scary.
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Old 07-31-2021, 08:27 PM   #44
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If after these acquisitions they find that they still need to go back to the Draisailt-McDavid 30 minute top line well, then they're just the same or worse off.

What they need is for these players to allow them to play the two apart and be successful enough without each other to keep them apart.

Ryan with Draisaitl and Hyman with McDavid may facilitate that, but hard to say.

As you say, if they're actually rolling lines too then McDavid is seeing less ice time, so does the production overall even budge?

No question they're even more vulnerable on the other side of the ice too.
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If after these acquisitions they find that they still need to go back to the Draisailt-McDavid 30 minute top line well, then they're just the same or worse off.

What they need is for these players to allow them to play the two apart and be successful enough without each other to keep them apart.

Ryan with Draisaitl and Hyman with McDavid may facilitate that, but hard to say.

As you say, if they're actually rolling lines too then McDavid is seeing less ice time, so does the production overall even budge?

No question they're even more vulnerable on the other side of the ice too.

No chance that it isn’t Mavi and Raisatl on the top line together all year, because Mavi says so,

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Hyman - Nothing-Happens - Yamamoto
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And who cares about the rest they don’t get on the ice…….
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this is the moment Connor decided to trade Bear

Bad pass by Bear but what in the blue blazes were Khaira and Koekoek doing on that play?
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Ugh. Foegele is actually gonna be a player. Hate this.
It won't matter. Smith is going to be terrible and so will that defence. Oilers are are going to average 5 goals a game and allow 8.
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Bad pass by Bear but what in the blue blazes were Khaira and Koekoek doing on that play?
Connor got rid of them too
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Connor got rid of them too
Irrelevant that Mavi was invisible during the playoffs and coughed up turnovers for two key goals in 2 losses, and Raisatl was looking down at his feet turning around the Jets net after Mavi coughed up the puck at the Jets blue line for the series ending goal.

They will never change up there and I love it, worst franchise in all professional sport.
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Bad pass by Bear but what in the blue blazes were Khaira and Koekoek doing on that play?
Playing Oilers-branded defense. Yet another shining example of a "this (open) guy scored".

Fixing Oilers style of defensive play isn't going to be addressed by trading for one or two players. It's ingrained into the culture of that locker room; and isn't helped the not-shining examples of defense by their core leaders, McDavid and Draisaitl.
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It won't matter. Smith is going to be terrible and so will that defence. Oilers are are going to average 5 goals a game and allow 8.
I'm just so glad Dazey wasn't smart enough to pursue Kuemper before re-upping Smith for 2(wtf?) years.

If they got in before the Avs, there might actually be reason to be concerned.

Good thing they don't give the back end and goaltending near the same effort & thought that they do on the forward ranks.

Seriously, that organization is obsessed with offense. Not sure they've had an intimidating blue line since I was a toddler.
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Fun fact:

Foegele has three silent E's in his name.
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Fun fact:

Foegele has three silent E's in his name.
So he can't even pronounce Edmonton
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Bad pass by Bear but what in the blue blazes were Khaira and Koekoek doing on that play?
Yeah, really. Wheeler is a good frickin player and will make many players look bad by being able to capitalize on mistakes, but how Khaira and Koekoek reacted after that gave the Jets all the space in the world.
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Connor got rid of them too
Is it normal for a network to go to the reaction of a single player on the bench twice during the same replay? Weird. Gotta love the McDavid reaction though haha, I hope he has to play all 8 years of his contract in western Siberia (YEG)
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If after these acquisitions they find that they still need to go back to the Draisailt-McDavid 30 minute top line well, then they're just the same or worse off.

What they need is for these players to allow them to play the two apart and be successful enough without each other to keep them apart.

Ryan with Draisaitl and Hyman with McDavid may facilitate that, but hard to say.

As you say, if they're actually rolling lines too then McDavid is seeing less ice time, so does the production overall even budge?

No question they're even more vulnerable on the other side of the ice too.
I have to repeat this every time someone says Hyman improves the team. If he ends up just being a winger for McDrai, that just isn’t the case, whether he is better than previous wingers or no. And if he ends up on a different line (say, with RNH) and they are still together, welcome to limited ice time Zach.
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Old 08-02-2021, 10:32 AM   #57
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Fun fact:

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IMO the second "e" is not silent.
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Foegele has three silent E's in his name.
Warrn Fogl of Dmonton Oilrs
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IMO the second "e" is not silent.
It depends on where to accent occurs. If it is on tbe first syllable, then the second E could actually be silent.

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