Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Vegas paid a lot for Stone, and no cup yet. Worth it?

They have been close, have seen multiple runs where he has made a large impact statistically, and may yet win over the remaining duration of his contract.

So probably worth it yes.

Is your logic that because a big player acquisition didn't work out for Vegas we should just play it safe and continue with this B-level core in hopes of..... seeing the second round of the playoffs once in the coming years?

If anything, the Flames can't afford to play it safe and continue as they have been. They are just driving apathy into the fanbase further with every season.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Vegas paid a lot for Stone, and no cup yet. Worth it?

They’ve been to the 3rd round with Stone, so yes.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

...Is your logic that because a big player acquisition didn't work out for Vegas we should just play it safe and continue with this B-level core in hopes of..... seeing the second round of the playoffs once in the coming years?...

You also missed it. GioforPM was responding to a poster who asserted that unless the Flames win a Stanley Cup with Jack Eichel in the lineup, then they would regret trading for him if it happened.


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[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

####ing do it Brad! imagine a Mcdavid Eichel fight in a battle of alberta playoff omg

If they traded for him, a McDavid-Eichel showdown (I don't know about fight..) in the playoffs is not only possible but probable.

Both Alberta ownerships would fiscally benefit massively from this and the PR around it.

Outside of the medical side of it going sideways, which seems more and more improbable with each medical opinion coming in, I don't see the downside.

Do
It.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

They have been close, have seen multiple runs where he has made a large impact statistically, and may yet win over the remaining duration of his contract.

So probably worth it yes.

Is your logic that because a big player acquisition didn't work out for Vegas we should just play it safe and continue with this B-level core in hopes of..... seeing the second round of the playoffs once in the coming years?

If anything, the Flames can't afford to play it safe and continue as they have been. They are just driving apathy into the fanbase further with every season.

Obviously my post wasn’t clear - I short cut the statement. My logic is the opposite.

[Yoho]

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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Lottery protection should do the trick. But I think the rebuild would be outside of the next 3 year window, as much as I love these next couple of drafts.

The insistence of lottery protection may cost you the deal.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Buffalo’s focus is supposedly picks and prospects. The player is just to even out salary and fill a roster spot.

Monahan may be to even out salary.

Tkachuk is the major piece of the deal.


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[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

If they traded for him, a McDavid-Eichel showdown (I don't know about fight..) in the playoffs is not only possible but probable...

Well, the stupid Oilers would still have to show that they could provide more competition than a limp noodle in the playoffs if they do qualify, so I am not holding my breath on the probability of any sort of showdown.

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[Weitz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Well there we have it, Oilers fans want this to go down so it must be a good idea!

I mean overpay out the ass for sure…

[Enoch Root]

I would imagine that Adams is not impressed by that - pretty classless

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Monahan may be to even out salary.

Tkachuk is the major piece of the deal.


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Again, it depends on what Buffalo is focused on. The reporting indicates that they don’t want big salary/star players back. And Tkachuk comes with his own contract headache in short order.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The insistence of lottery protection may cost you the deal.


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Then I wave it. With the flames adding to their roster that’s more conducive to Sutter, I think it’s less likely we end up with a top 10 pick. It’s not something I’d be pumped about the flames doing but worth it in this case, IMO

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, the stupid Oilers would still have to show that they could provide more competition than a limp noodle in the playoffs if they do qualify, so I am not holding my breath on the probability of any sort of showdown.

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Did I say showdown?

I meant a slaughter, guised as a showdown.

[FanIn80]

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

The insistence of lottery protection may cost you the deal.


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insisting on unprotected picks will cost Buffalo the deal given the volatility of Eichel's health

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Those are ridiculous returns for Ottawa and Buffalo, both abruptly hang up the phone.

[CroCop]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

When you dream, do you dream in colour?

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Vegas paid a lot for Stone, and no cup yet. Worth it?

Yes absolutely.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Vegas paid a lot for Stone, and no cup yet. Worth it?

Did they pay a lot for Stone? Brannstrom is on the block again and Lindberg is out of the league. They only gave up a 2nd rounder as well and Stone agreed to the extension before.