2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They were talking about it on the FAN yesterday and it is the 5-6th smallest metro market in the league.

I think the city played a huge role in getting Coleman to sign but that is part of the problem. Calgary is a great place for families so players with kids seem to be very willing to sign here. Great city to live in, safe, clean, friendly but for 20 something millionaires I can see why many other cities are more attractive.

Small city, fishbowl market, freezing cold winter, brutal travel are reasons this is not a city hockey players want to be.


I will say I do think Calgary is a tier above Edmonton, Winnipeg when it comes to UFA destinations

a tier? no not a whole tier.
maybe a step or two above, because of the mountains and being a little closer to the USA in the case of Edmonton.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

a tier? no not a whole tier.
maybe a step or two above, because of the mountains and being a little closer to the USA in the case of Edmonton.

Calgary is the nicer place to live and I have lived in both

Edmonton’s biggest attraction is mcdavid

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They were talking about it on the FAN yesterday and it is the 5-6th smallest metro market in the league.

I think the city played a huge role in getting Coleman to sign but that is part of the problem. Calgary is a great place for families so players with kids seem to be very willing to sign here. Great city to live in, safe, clean, friendly but for 20 something millionaires I can see why many other cities are more attractive.

Small city, fishbowl market, freezing cold winter, brutal travel are reasons this is not a city hockey players want to be.


I will say I do think Calgary is a tier above Edmonton, Winnipeg when it comes to UFA destinations

Winters in most of the NE US are just as bad or worse.

Yes calgary isn't Boston or NYC, but if climate is a major concern, Calgary is much better than Minneapolis, Chicago, Boston, Buffalo, Detroit, Philly, etc.

I lived in DC for 2 years and would take a Calgary winter any day over winter there. I don't think you can fully appreciate how crappy the combination of gloomy skies, high wind, humidity and cold can be for 4 months of the year. It's downright miserable.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

Some people are comfortable in an urban lifestyle. They like being around people, going out with people, and activities where other people are around. Shopping, bars, nightlife etc.

Some people are wired differently. They value privacy, quiet and space in their off time.

If you're in the second category, places like New York, LA etc don't jump off of the page because your values don't align with the sort of lifestyles those places offer.

Calgary is very privacy friendly and is an outstanding option for raising a family in safety and comfort. It also offers an abundance of options for outdoor activities and sports.

I'd say there are a huge number of players that fall into the latter preference, particularly those in their mid twenties or later. And naturally athletes will enjoy others physucal activities.

Personally I actually wouldn't understand Calgary not drawing some appeal, unless you're a younger twenty something or teen who is still single, and wants to embrace the celebrity lifestyle and mingle with people in your spare time.

I'd wager 60% or more are more interested in settling down somewhere and would emphasize things like privacy, and a setting that is ideal for a family.

[Nelson]

The Flames need to get Tomas Tatar if a contract would be affordable. He is a great player!

Even without Eichel, I would really like the Flames with Tatar.

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Monahan - Coleman
Dube - Backlund - Tatar
Lucic - Pitlick - Ritchie

That's not that bad.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Nelson

The Flames need to get Tomas Tatar if a contract would be affordable. He is a great player!

No chance he would survive in Sutters system. Sutter would hate him.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

No chance he would survive in Sutters system. Sutter would hate him.

Look at his points and his relative possession numbers. They're really, really good. Sutter doesn't like players who help the team possess the puck? Sure, he's not huge and mean like Ritchie, and I think Ritchie is good too, but Tatar is better.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Look at his points and his relative possession numbers. They're really, really good. Sutter doesn't like players who help the team possess the puck? Sure, he's not huge and mean like Ritchie, and I think Ritchie is good too, but Tatar is better.

The same Tatar that was benched for the entire playoff on a paper thin Habs team?

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by tkflames

The same Tatar that was benched for the entire playoff on a paper thin Habs team?

Yes! I want the Flames to go and get him. He scores a lot, and he helps his team possess the puck a lot.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Calgary is the nicer place to live and I have lived in both

Edmonton’s biggest attraction is mcdavid

We're not talking about the average joe. we're talking about millionaire hockey players (maybe their significant others) in their 20's. I'm pretty sure they rank Calgary close around the same as Edmonton and Winnipeg, especially if they're American.
Being nicer than Edmonton isn't saying much to them.

[FlamesFaninEdmonchuck]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Look at his points and his relative possession numbers. They're really, really good. Sutter doesn't like players who help the team possess the puck? Sure, he's not huge and mean like Ritchie, and I think Ritchie is good too, but Tatar is better.

Yup. I think the narrative of what a Sutter player is doesn't match the reality. Sutter values defense and values controlling the puck, he LOVES it when those skills intersect with size and nastiness, but plenty of examples where he lets players play to their skillset. Gaborik in LA comes to mind... he didn't find himself in Sutter's dog house often even though no one would think of him as a Sutter player... in a small sample size it's been the same with Johnny Hockey. Don't give the puck away, cover your assignments, and do that with a high pace, seems like that is what Sutter wants.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Winters in most of the NE US are just as bad or worse.

I lived in NY and the only season I would take over Calgary's is Fall, which is long and glorious. The rest of the seasons are a humid mess that I'm glad I don't have to suffer through anymore. NE weather is almost always some type of uncomfortable.

[Icantwhisper]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Some people are comfortable in an urban lifestyle. They like being around people, going out with people, and activities where other people are around. Shopping, bars, nightlife etc.

Some people are wired differently. They value privacy, quiet and space in their off time.

If you're in the second category, places like New York, LA etc don't jump off of the page because your values don't align with the sort of lifestyles those places offer.

Calgary is very privacy friendly and is an outstanding option for raising a family in safety and comfort. It also offers an abundance of options for outdoor activities and sports.

I'd say there are a huge number of players that fall into the latter preference, particularly those in their mid twenties or later. And naturally athletes will enjoy others physucal activities.

Personally I actually wouldn't understand Calgary not drawing some appeal, unless you're a younger twenty something or teen who is still single, and wants to embrace the celebrity lifestyle and mingle with people in your spare time.

I'd wager 60% or more are more interested in settling down somewhere and would emphasize things like privacy, and a setting that is ideal for a family.

For you and me, yes. For a pro hockey player I'd say no. You telling me A Flame can go get groceries and not have people come up to them every time to say Hi or ask for an autograph or picture? Go for dinner and have people whisper and watch you? When I was younger Gilmour used to shop at the store I worked at, always a huge deal when he came in. was never left alone, adults acting like kids around him

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I lived in NY and the only season I would take over Calgary's is Fall, which is long and glorious. The rest of the seasons are a humid mess that I'm glad I don't have to suffer through anymore. NE weather is almost always some type of uncomfortable.

That's exactly it. Weather in Washington DC was probably not the #1, but one of the top reasons why I moved back. I'm not even joking.

In DC I would get maybe a month of very enjoyable weather. Never all at once. It would usually be a random Tuesday in April or December where by some miracle it's 22 degrees, sunny, not windy and low humidity.

Whereas in Calgary, we have 4 months of glorious summer weather. 4 months of winter, which may or may not be that great and 4 months of in between weather thats neither nice or particularly bad.

[GioforPM]

People don't move to NYC for the weather. Though I've run in Central Park and it was awesome.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

It’s not being down on Calgary. What you and I think of the place is irrelevant. It’s just a reality that to 26 year old megamillionaire professional athletes, small-market Canadian cities are typically not attractive destinations. This shows up in player polls, where Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Ottawa perennially sit in the bottom third. And execs like Burke have commented that every Canadian team besides Toronto and Vancouver is on most no-trade lists. I expect this is especially true of American players. In an interview yesterday, Coleman commented that when discussing the potential move with family and in-laws, some had no idea even where Calgary was.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by gioforpm

people don't move to nyc for the weather. Though i've run from someone in central park and it was awesome.

fyp.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Icantwhisper

For you and me, yes. For a pro hockey player I'd say no. You telling me A Flame can go get groceries and not have people come up to them every time to say Hi or ask for an autograph or picture? Go for dinner and have people whisper and watch you? When I was younger Gilmour used to shop at the store I worked at, always a huge deal when he came in. was never left alone, adults acting like kids around him

so it's your fault!

[Table 5]

As a place to raise a family, or be someone with a middle-class income, Calgary (and most of Canada) is a great option. As a place to be a 20-something single millionaire, it probably wouldn't be on my list either. It's ok if both of these things are true.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Any Word on Ritchie?

The same guy that tweeted out the Blake Coleman to Calgary rumor says that the Flames are taking a run at Nick Ritchie.

Steinberg also said on the radio earlier today there are rumors that the Flames are interested in Ritchie.