Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by camm13

Backlund isn't getting traded, he still brings alot to this team. 200ft game, one of the best shut down guys who can bring some offense, still a strong skater. If anyone's in trade talks, it's Monahan before Backlund.

Honestly, I would offer up either one. Whichever one they prefer. Backlund is older and has a longer contract. Plus Monahan could bounce back when healthy.


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[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yeah, not all 1sts are equal. The players/prospects involved look similar, but the Flames 1st is likely going to be much more valuable than the Vegas 1st.

Not if we get Eichel for these rumoured type deals. We’d easily challenge them for the division.

[SportsJunky]

Zary is a keeper. I'd send Wolf.

[BEANZ]

Would people consider trading Johnny as part of the Eichel package?

Personally, I think this might make the most sense. Johnny is not a Sutter type and it would significantly lower the balance of the package needed.

Johnny and a prospect or two for Eichel is easier to pallet than giving up 1st in what is going to be a draft to remember.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

Would people consider trading Johnny as part of the Eichel package?

I'd consider it but I'd much prefer to see Johnny and Eichel play together. Could be an incredible top line.

[Bonded]

Monahan not waiving could take him out of the deal.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

Would people consider trading Johnny as part of the Eichel package?

Personally, I think this might make the most sense. Johnny is not a Sutter type and it would significantly lower the balance of the package needed.

Johnny and a prospect or two for Eichel is easier to pallet than giving up 1st in what is going to be a draft to remember.

Johnny played great under Sutter. And Sutter seemed to use him properly as well. Plus, guys like Tanguay and Huselius have thrived under Sutter hockey. Both of those guys have games similar to Gaudreau - Johnny is just more skilled.


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

If you had to choose, would you rather give Buffalo Pelletier, Zary, or Wolf? Would one would you insist on keeping?

Wolf in a heartbeat.

While Zary and Pelletier are very equivalent, a goalie prospect is way less certain.

Wolf was a 6th round pick - I know it doesn't mean everything, but there is a reason why the other 2 were 1st rounders and he was a late rounder

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

Would people consider trading Johnny as part of the Eichel package?

Personally, I think this might make the most sense. Johnny is not a Sutter type and it would significantly lower the balance of the package needed.

Johnny and a prospect or two for Eichel is easier to pallet than giving up 1st in what is going to be a draft to remember.

No I don’t think so. Johnny is up for a contract in a year, and just a wild guess, but I don’t think he’d be willing to resign in Buffalo. He also just submitted his 5 team no trade list, and I’m almost positive Buffalo would be on it.

The reason Eichel is so enticing, is the thought of Gaudreau finally having a player of that caliber center him on a line.

And I believe the Sutter type player thing is being overblown by some. You can’t have a team full of Pitlick’s and Lewis’. You still need high end skill and talent on any team

[BEANZ]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I'd consider it but I'd much prefer to see Johnny and Eichel play together. Could be an incredible top line.

Thats fair. I am by no means am an Eichel expert and haven't seen him play enough. But from what I have seen the kid is a play driver, he would be elite with Tkachuk and Eat Bread as his wingers.

Losing Johnny also helps with a true change in the core. I like Johnny but I am not a fan of his poor me attitude that is apparent on the ice and genuinely feel like he is going to be out of place in a Sutter system.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

Would people consider trading Johnny as part of the Eichel package?

Personally, I think this might make the most sense. Johnny is not a Sutter type and it would significantly lower the balance of the package needed.

Johnny and a prospect or two for Eichel is easier to pallet than giving up 1st in what is going to be a draft to remember.

Johnny is not waving to go to Buffalo. As of yesterday Johnny pretty much has full control where he ends up.

[MrMike]

And I want those two playing together. It would be magic.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Johnny is not waving to go to Buffalo. As of yesterday Johnny pretty much has full control where he ends up.

Yep. That ship has sailed.

[Canada 02]

Krebs is likely better than any prospect the Flames could offer; other than him, Calgary should be able to top the other 3 parts from Vegas

[BEANZ]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Johnny is not waving to go to Buffalo. As of yesterday Johnny pretty much has full control where he ends up.

I get that he has control, but Buffalo is much closer to home for him than Calgary. Johnny also doesn't strike me as a guy who hates to lose, so perhaps a max contract would be enough get him in a Sabres jersey.

[The Fonz]

Production over the last 2 years, and UFA deals signed over the last 3 days:

Jaden Schwartz
111GP 30G 48A 78PTS .70PTS/GP
5yrs @ $5.5M

Taylor Hall
118GP 26G 59A 85PTS .72PTS/GP
4yrs @ $6.0M

Mike Hoffman
121GP 46G 49A 95PTS .79PTS/GP
3yrs @ $4.5M

Gabriel Landeskog
108GP 41G 55A 96PTS .89PTS/GP
8yrs @ $7.0M



Johnny Gaudreau
126GP 37G 70A 107PTS .85PTS/GP
?yrs @ $?M

Fair market value for Gaudreau is $6M.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

No I don’t think so. Johnny is up for a contract in a year, and just a wild guess, but I don’t think he’d be willing to resign in Buffalo. He also just submitted his 5 team no trade list, and I’m almost positive Buffalo would be on it.

The reason Eichel is so enticing, is the thought of Gaudreau finally having a player of that caliber center him on a line.

And I believe the Sutter type player thing is being overblown by some. You can’t have a team full of Pitlick’s and Lewis’. You still need high end skill and talent on any team

It's a 5 team trade list. He lists the only 5 teams he can be traded to without a waiver. Not sure when he has to create the list.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

I get that he has control, but Buffalo is much closer to home for him than Calgary. Johnny also doesn't strike me as a guy who hates to lose, so perhaps a max contract would be enough get him in a Sabres jersey.

It’s not impossible, but it’s highly improbable

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Not if we get Eichel for these rumoured type deals. We’d easily challenge them for the division.

And if a team as good as Vegas gets him, that could easily become the #32 pick. Even with Eichel, the Flames will not be better than Vegas. Add to that, Eichel may not even be ready to start the season. Vegas could easily weather that. If that happens to us, we could easily be a lottery team next season (considering the roster players that would be moved out for him).

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by BEANZ

I get that he has control, but Buffalo is much closer to home for him than Calgary. Johnny also doesn't strike me as a guy who hates to lose, so perhaps a max contract would be enough get him in a Sabres jersey.

Doesn’t hate to lose? I doubt that. Before Calgary Gaudreau has done nothing but win at every level. The only players that are willing to go to the sabres right now are guys who need a chance to play cause they are not getting opportunities elsewhere.


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