2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Markstrom and Andersson with really down seasons.

Monahan with a total write-off of a season.

Tkachuk with a terrible season.

Free agent signings (Leivo, Simon and Nordstrom) as complete failures and almost zero value.

IMO, the chances that the Flames are better this year is VERY high. And that doesn't even account for the fact that they him improved the team, and made it bigger, faster and nastier.

And then there is full season of Sutter.

IMO, the Flames will be significantly better than last year, and are easily a playoff team.

Hmmm. I'll agree last season was a write off. But I'm not sold this is a playoff team yet. There's simply far too many question marks about this roster that have yet to be answered.

And it's simply too early into the offseason to make such proclamations as we don't know what else Treliv8ng has up his sleeve.

I still think this roster is going to look significantly more different come training camp compared to today.

[868904]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Good point. But Hamilton wanted out of Boston, desperately.

Zadorov did not want out of Chicago.

He's clearly not worth his ask. But he's in the position where he's a UFA in a year. He can go to arbitration, get a year contract, and then bargain with everyone.

I think he's worth no more than his QO, but I think Calgary would like to sign him for about 4 years and $4M.

I expect that they'll need to go up to $5M for 4 years, a little less for 5 years. Or they may simply settle for 1 year at $4M. to avoid arbitration.

Zadorov sounds like he just wants to make his coach and team happy. I think there’s some confidence issues there and if he gets the right coach and motivator, look out. I don’t think he cares much about what City he plays in and if he really wanted to stay in chicago, he would have taken what they were offering.

[GordonBlue]

Day 1 of Free Agent Frenzy saw the NHL’s 32 teams spend a collective $783,600,000 in total contract dollars over 161 signings.

But despite the flurry of signings on Wednesday, there are still a number of notable players available on the market.

https://www.tsn.ca/brandon-saad-davi...able-1.1674784

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420752684110471168

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420753136487215105

Not sure where to put this, but I think the negativity around the flames is unwarranted. By all metrics, the flames will be competitive next year and the off-season isn’t over yet.

I've seen almost no one suggest they'll be bad.
I'm fact many have complained thet won't be bad enough to get a great draft pick.
I'm sure concensus of the roster as of right now would be a team competing for the lower playoff spots and might get in to the playoffs.
Mediocre yes, but not bad.

[AC]

Some Friedman quotes from his Buffalo radio hit:
https://twitter.com/WGR550/

Originally Posted by Friedman

Eichel wants this to be over with. He also wants to focus on his new team and where he is going. The Sabres are not making this move for Eichel until they get the value they want in a trade. There's no need to dig deeper than that.

Montreal has never really had what the Sabres wanted in an Eichel deal. Minnesota has legitimately tried, but they're not there. They remain very interested. Los Angeles has been in-and-out, but I don't think they're in it anymore.

Peyton Krebs is absolutely what the Sabres are looking to get out of Vegas, and the Golden Knights are reluctant to give him up. I'm sure there are other teams in the discussions.

St. Louis makes some sense, but I'm not sure how real it's ever gotten. From what I've heard surrounding the Rangers, the asking price and demands haven't even been close. Does Buffalo have another outlet here?

Anaheim remains in on Eichel discussions and they have taken real runs, but they haven't gotten to where Buffalo wants to go.

The longer this gets put off to determine what procedure Eichel is going to get, the more questions come up about his availability during the season.

I think Kevyn Adams has been bold with these trade discussions. It's been a tug of war, and I don't think other teams see any way Buffalo wants this to go into next season.

What happens with Eichel's medical situation? At some point in time, he will have to get some work done on his neck. He will be a target for other teams if he plays still banged up.

Does Buffalo really want Jack Eichel to be at training camp next season? Even if he has surgery, the timeline for recovery varies, and that's if everything runs perfectly. It could happen that way, but there's no guarantee.

Mentions Montreal, Minnesota, LA, Anaheim, Vegas, NYR, and St Louis, but not Calgary.

[FlamesAddiction]

With the way things stand right now, I expect them to be somewhere in the bottom half to the bottom 3rd.

No really going out a limb in my opinion.

[Jore]

Roster's poised for another 15th-25th overall finish. Need a serious top 6 C upgrade and preferably an offensive minded D. Eichel would change things obviously.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Markstrom and Andersson with really down seasons.

Monahan with a total write-off of a season.

Tkachuk with a terrible season.

Free agent signings (Leivo, Simon and Nordstrom) as complete failures and almost zero value.

IMO, the chances that the Flames are better this year is VERY high. And that doesn't even account for the fact that they him improved the team, and made it bigger, faster and nastier.

And then there is full season of Sutter.

IMO, the Flames will be significantly better than last year, and are easily a playoff team.

I agree with you.

I think players like Dube and possibly Valimaki will also take a step this year.

Like Sutter said last season. The team’s problem isn’t skill. It’s between the ears. That’s easier for a good coach to fix.

I don’t think Eichel and his broken neck are coming here.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Jore

Roster's poised for another 15th-25th overall finish. Need a serious top 6 C upgrade and preferably an offensive minded D. Eichel would change things obviously.

I disagree, they will be in the 12-20 range. All comes down to Goaltending. Agree though, problem is its still a middle of the pack team if they dont add a Top 10 Dman or Center

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by AC

Some Friedman quotes from his Buffalo radio hit:
https://twitter.com/WGR550/



Mentions Montreal, Minnesota, LA, Anaheim, Vegas, NYR, and St Louis, but not Calgary.

May or may not mean anything. Sometimes these guys are told to keep stuff quiet. Right or wrong I’m certain Treliving is in on this. He loves to measure his schlong against others by acquiring a big fish even at the cost of excessive futures. When it comes to the cap situation for most GM’s in on him I’m sure this needs to get resolved soon as each team needs to move on to other deals signings. I’ll go out of limb and say if it’s not done in the next ten days it’s not done until next offseason.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by AC

Some Friedman quotes from his Buffalo radio hit:
https://twitter.com/WGR550/
Mentions Montreal, Minnesota, LA, Anaheim, Vegas, NYR, and St Louis, but not Calgary.

So either they are really in on it or never really engaging seriously.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

With the way things stand right now, I expect them to be somewhere in the bottom half to the bottom 3rd.

No really going out a limb in my opinion.

If Markstrom doesn't suck then there is no way the Flames don't make playoffs with how much the Pacific sucks.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Chris Tanev

I guess I should have added RFA defencemen. Tanev was UFA and had teams bidding for him. Zadorov has one team and a 3.2M QO. A 10-15pt Dman isnt going to get a higher than 4M arb ruling.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by AC

Some Friedman quotes from his Buffalo radio hit:
https://twitter.com/WGR550/

Mentions Montreal, Minnesota, LA, Anaheim, Vegas, NYR, and St Louis, but not Calgary.

Could be off, but it feels like we never get mentioned in big ticket rumours like this, at least not until the last minute like that Hamilton trade with Boston. All of a sudden a tweet was sent out that we had fully entered the race to get Hamilton, then were top contenders to get him minutes later, then acquired him not long after that. Those were exciting times. Hope it's the same.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If Markstrom doesn't suck then there is no way the Flames don't make playoffs with how much the Pacific sucks.

I’m not so sure about that. Vegas is for sure. I think Edmonton also improved their team enough to comfortably get in. Vancouver got better but it’s a question of how much better. LA also improved and if Anaheim goes out and lands Eichel that’s an immediate boost as well. I’d say any one of Vancouver, LA, and Calgary could make it and it’s a tossup of how much you like their respective cores.

Personally I just don’t see where the offense is going to come from on this team apart from Johnny, Chucky, and Lindholm. Adding Coleman and Zadorov is counterbalanced by the loss of Gio. I think they end up just outside the playoffs once again and lose quite a few 2-1 games.

[dammage79]

Just watch for LeBrun updates, he's the only one I care to pay attention to when it comes to what the Flames are about to pull off.

I really don't like Friedman much anymore. It's clear he doesn't really know or care much about the Flames as opposed to the SN jerk fest over the Leafs and Oilers. Flames are an also ran to SN.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420752684110471168

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420753136487215105

Not sure where to put this, but I think the negativity around the flames is unwarranted. By all metrics, the flames will be competitive next year and the off-season isn’t over yet.

Why are the Habs a measuring stick? Who cares about the Habs...they went on a cindarella run and got deservingly crushed in the finals by a far superior team. I want the Flames to try to be that superior team, not hoping to sneak into the playoffs and go on a miracle run.

Are they bad isn't even the right question IMO. After going through a rebuild, shouldn't the more important question be are the Flames a contender, and if not, what will it take to become one?

[Wastedyouth]

I think it's hilarious anyone thinks Eichel is coming here.

He's not coming to a Canadian team.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I think it's hilarious anyone thinks Eichel is coming here.

He's not coming to a Canadian team.

Why not?

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I think it's hilarious anyone thinks Eichel is coming here.

He's not coming to a Canadian team.

I don't think he has a say in it, there's no NTC or NMC in his contract for 21-22, those don't kick in until the year after.