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Old 07-29-2021, 08:19 AM   #381
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I want to like this signing but I'm afraid of what the contract is going to look like.

A big, punishing defensive dman is something this team needs but at what cap hit?
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:20 AM   #382
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I want to like this signing but I'm afraid of what the contract is going to look like.

A big, punishing defensive dman is something this team needs but at what cap hit?
I think it's going to be around 22million over 5 years
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:28 AM   #383
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I think it's going to be around 22million over 5 years
Yeah, somewhere in the ballpark of 18.75-22.
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Tunnel of Death 2.0.
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Tunnel of Death 2.0.

I loved watching Regehr angle guys to the boards before crunching them. He must have done that to Hemsky every single time the flames played the oilers. It was so satisfying.

I think Zadorov could really thrive under Sutter’s system so maybe we can see that tunnel of death return return once again.


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Old 07-29-2021, 10:18 AM   #386
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I loved watching Regehr angle guys to the boards before crunching them. He must have done that to Hemsky every single time the flames played the oilers. It was so satisfying.

I think Zadorov could really thrive under Sutter’s system so maybe we can see that tunnel of death return return once again.


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Old 07-29-2021, 10:29 AM   #387
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I think it's going to be around 22million over 5 years
Then Treliving wasted a pick
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:37 AM   #388
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Then Treliving wasted a pick
You mean wasted a 3rd round pick that has a 12% chance of ever playing an NHL game, let alone becoming as good of player as Zadorov?
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Then Treliving wasted a pick
This is just a ridiculous comment. I don't get it at all.
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This is just a ridiculous comment. I don't get it at all.
You don’t need to spend draft pick to sign a mediocre dman for 4.5 M for 5 yrs
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:51 AM   #391
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You mean wasted a 3rd round pick that has a 12% chance of ever playing an NHL game, let alone becoming as good of player as Zadorov?
Yeah adam fox, Johnny Gaudreau or TJ Brodie happens some time.

Point is that is too much for him regardless of price
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:52 AM   #392
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You mean wasted a 3rd round pick that has a 12% chance of ever playing an NHL game, let alone becoming as good of player as Zadorov?
12 percent chance for a 3rd round? Not in the modern era. Closer to 50 percent play 1 game.
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:56 AM   #393
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You don’t need to spend draft pick to sign a mediocre dman for 4.5 M for 5 yrs
You should post a list of the available players with a similar skillset that were available and willing to come to Calgary for nothing.
I assume you've talked to potential candidates.
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Tre is a good negotiator. I'm guessing he comes in at ~4 million.
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12 percent chance for a 3rd round? Not in the modern era. Closer to 50 percent play 1 game.
Apologies,a bit of hyperbole on my part. >99 games played is 13.7% for a 3rd rounder.
https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/...abilities/amp/

My point still stands.
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Guessing Tre talks him down to 5 x 4.45 and a modified NTC
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His direct comparable would be Brandon Carlo who just signed a 6 year/4.1 AAV contract. I would say however that Carlo has proven slightly more to date.

5-6 years around 3.8ish should be the number.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:20 AM   #398
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Love the physical aspect of Zadorov's game, something that these recent Flames teams have been missing. Big, mean, physical, and defensively sound. Nothing wrong with that. Those types of players are valuable to any team.
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"The boys already added me to the group chat," laughed the Flames' newest acquisition, Nikita Zadorov. "Looch said, 'Now we can punch guys together!

"It's exciting.

"That was the first text that we sent to each other."

"Obviously, we had our little dust-up there a couple of years ago," recalled Lucic. "I thought I'd be funny [to text him] and kind of make light of the situation, to help him feel comfortable with the group. We all know how hockey is - what happens on the ice, stays on the ice. Now that we're teammates, we'll be in the battles and the fights together.

"I'm excited to have him a part of the group. He obviously adds some size and some meat back there and that's going to be great for our team."

"It's a presence," Lucic said. "Not only that, but he's really strong on his feet, he makes big hits, he wins battles, and does all those little things at the same time.

"Sure, he's big - but he uses it well. You feel it.

"Even for a guy my size, you know there's a lot of strength coming your way when you go into a battle with him."


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I used to live with an Avs fan and have watched some 150 games with Zadorov. That said I watched exactly zero last season.

But here is what I remember.

I start with the bad:

Zadorov loved taking low percentage shots from the point, forcing slap shots where perhaps a pass would suffice. Kind of like a Michael Stone. He obviously has a hammer for a shot, but these days you need a scalpel in most situations.

Secondly, Zadorov takes heaps of penalties. From what I remember the bulk of his PIMs were from roughings and from hits to the head. The latter was never always his fault, he is just bigger then your average player, and he loves taking the body.

The good:

He loves taking the body. Standing up forcheckers, slamming forwards into the corner and stepping up on guys taking bad passes. He loves it all. This guy hits.

As you can imagine he is a beast in the corner and in front of the net Zadorov is in the hurt business and he knows what pays his bills.

For a while the pairings were
Johnson - Barrie
Zadorov -Girrard

and I thought that worked really well. Zadorov is a strong skater for his size, but he is not going to move the puck up ice with speed. He is the prototypical stay of home D man you pair with a more mobile D man. He and Girrard paired well together, and I think that he would pair equally as well with someone like Valimaki, Kinnvall or Kyllington.

He is not an all instances player, he is a complimentary piece that will add lots of grit, and will allow smaller mobile D men not to get punished in the corners in their own zone.

TLDR/ If you can get over the penalties you can enjoy the physicality.
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