Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

If Buffalo wants a first from both 22 and 23 do you still do it? I don’t know if I can give both up.

For me, it would ideally be my '22 1st, 2nd, & two prospects, which I think is palatable.

If they require two 1sts, I'd have to require lottery protection on a second 1st that becomes a 2nd in the case that we are in the top ten, or something like that. I think with Eichel's risk, you can't be giving up tickets to both Wright and Bedard lotteries potentially.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Yup, because the odds are neither of them will be as good as Eichel.

IIRC their projections are as good or better.

[browna]

Late in the game here, but I assume any 3 ways with St. L involving Tkachuk have been discussed as naseum?
Eichel Flames
Tkchcuk Blues
X+y+z from Flames and St L to Buffalo...Buffalo tosses on picks or players to even it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

IIRC their projections are as good or better.

A) Flames would have to be in a position to pick one
B) They would have to pan out to be Eichel's level or better

I like our chances of shooting for Eichel and him working out better than relying on both A and B happening for the Flames who are going back to a subpar division.

I'm only wagering on the draft route if I'm the Yotes and tearing it all down to have potentially a few tickets in those lotteries.

We are not doing that, so Eichel it is..

[Bonded]

Alright I got it all sorted out. The Flames send Monahan to the Wild or some team like that for their 22 1st and then acquire Eichel with Flames 1st. The team the Flames get a 1st from implodes and it becomes a top 3 pick.

[868904]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not too sure what to make of this. It seems like Boomer occasionally has some good intel, but I’m not sure which way he is suggesting the Flames will go here.

The one thing I do think though, is Treliving & Sutter covet defensemen. If there is an Eichel deal, I would be surprised if Valimaki is included.

I think they would reluctantly part with Valimaki for Eichel.

With Zadorov, Mackay, Kylington gives them enough depth there for this season and who knows, Gio might come back on a short term deal the next season.

I think Sutter may prefer Mackay anyways. Just as big, just as mobile, tougher and more physical, not the same offensive upside as Valimaki but if it means getting Eichel, you do it.

Kinnvall is also in the mix for NHL ice.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Teroy

I'm pretty sure Monahan will recover. I wish I could say the same about Eichel.

But he hasn't been recovering. His injuries have been ongoing. His play has been declining.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by 868904

I think they would reluctantly part with Valimaki for Eichel.

With Zadorov, Mackay, Kylington gives them enough depth there for this season and who knows, Gio might come back on a short term deal the next season.

I think Sutter may prefer Mackay anyways. Just as big, just as mobile, tougher and more physical, not the same offensive upside as Valimaki but if it means getting Eichel, you do it.

Kinnvall is also in the mix for NHL ice.

Valimaki better become a #1 if he is the hold up in a Stone and Eichel trade lol

[Badgers Nose]

Could Money go on LTIR to make this work? Come back for playoffs?

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

IIRC their projections are as good or better.

The point of adding Eichel is to make our team better. Flames have never drafted top 3. I doubt they would after these moves, and under Sutter as coach.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Could Money go on LTIR to make this work? Come back for playoffs?

Hahahah. Hahahahahahahah. Yeah his game explodes in the playoffs.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Hahahah. Hahahahahahahah. Yeah his game explodes in the playoffs.

Sadly he is one the better playoff performers for the Flames.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Alright I got it all sorted out. The Flames send Monahan to the Wild or some team like that for their 22 1st and then acquire Eichel with Flames 1st. The team the Flames get a 1st from implodes and it becomes a top 3 pick.

Wright and Eichel become Flames, profit?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Wright and Eichel become Flames, profit?

Exactly. Make it so hockey gods.

[868904]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

The point of adding Eichel is to make our team better. Flames have never drafted top 3. I doubt they would after these moves, and under Sutter as coach.

I'd be ok sending the 2022 1st rounder because Sutter won't allow the team to be bottom 3 bad to win the lottery.

Sutter only has one year left on his contract and if he has a bad season, it will probably be rebuild City and you will want that 2023 1st rounder. Maybe that one can be lottery protected.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Hahahah. Hahahahahahahah. Yeah his game explodes in the playoffs.

Best PO PPG on the team.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Sadly he is one the better playoff performers for the Flames.

That shows how bad it is.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by 868904

I'd be ok sending the 2022 1st rounder because Sutter won't allow the team to be bottom 3 bad to win the lottery.

Sutter only has one year left on his contract and if he has a bad season, it will probably be rebuild City and you will want that 2023 1st rounder. Maybe that one can be lottery protected.

He signed a three year deal. We have him for two more years. It’s all good.

[djsFlames]

My Dad was also shocked when I explained to him that Monahan led the team in playoff PPG.

[memphusk]

Teams and league should allow a kicker in the contracts. You can succeed the cap by 1 million per player if ou win the cup. As a bonus for winning. Could get alot more give a ####., but beers will be 18 dollars instea17 for us folk.