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Old 07-28-2021, 06:58 PM   #981
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Is Hoffman a guy you could see thriving under Sutter? A 2-way player who goes to the dirty areas? There is a reason you pay more for such a player.
Lets see how long that engine runs first. Sutter is going to ask more of h than he's ever been asked.
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:59 PM   #982
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Soooo, assuming Zadorov signs for $4,850,000 AAV the Flames are pretty much full up.

Vladar as the back up
Kinvall as the 3rd pair right hand D
Dube & Valimaki for 950k
Mackey for 850k
Gawdin & Phillips for $750k


$2,875,000 cap space left.


Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Monahan - Coleman
Dillon Dube - Backlund - Pitlick
Milan Lucic - T. Lewis - Ritchie

Gawdin - Phillips

Hanifin - Tanev
Zadorov - Andersson
Valimaki - Kinvall

Mackey

Markstrom
Vladar
Pike tweeted this just before the Vlader trade:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420465375246909441
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:02 PM   #983
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Pike tweeted this just before the Vlader trade:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1420465375246909441
Yes, but that can't be with a full roster.

Once you add all the other RFA's and depth players to fill out the roster that cap space disappears rather quickly.

Along with Vladar and Zadorov, I added:

Dube
Valimaki
Mackey
Gawdin
Phillips
Kinvall

All of them under $1 million cap hit.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:04 PM   #984
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Yes, but that can't be with a full roster.

Once you add all the other RFA's and depth players to fill out the roster that cap space disappears rather quickly.

Along with Vladar and Zadorov, I added:

Dube
Valimaki
Mackey
Gawdin
Phillips
Kinvall

All of them under $1 million cap hit.
Makes sense, thanks
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:05 PM   #985
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Yes, but that can't be with a full roster.

Once you add all the other RFA's and depth players to fill out the roster that cap space disappears rather quickly.

Along with Vladar and Zadorov, I added:

Dube
Valimaki
Mackey
Gawdin
Phillips
Kinvall

All of them under $1 million cap hit.
Maybe one of Mackey, gawdin, Phillips and kinvall will make the team
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:06 PM   #986
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Maybe one of Mackey, gawdin, Phillips and kinvall will make the team
Maybe, but the ones that don't won't have a cheaper replacement.

Plus, if you look at the roster I put up, 3 of the 4 are just the extra press box guys.

Replace them with some scrub. It don't matter.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:07 PM   #987
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Why is nobody adding Stone to the equation?
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:08 PM   #988
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Why is nobody adding Stone to the equation?
AFAIK they haven't re-signed him yet?
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:09 PM   #989
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I really wish the Sabres ask from Calgary for Eichel would leak.

Would love to know what they are asking for
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Why is nobody adding Stone to the equation?
I hope they add stone instead of evil kinvall and phillips

We’re most likely not going to win the cup next year. It would be nice to have the other teams feel pain at least.
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AFAIK they haven't re-signed him yet?
I don't know what the alphabet to start means?
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I don't know what the alphabet to start means?
As far as I know
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:37 PM   #994
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I would of been happier seeing them give Hoffman an extra million a year than he received on that 3 year deal. I wonder what the 2nd best offer for Coleman was?
Why? They scored at nearly the same rate last year, with the difference that Coleman did it all at even strength and 50% of Hoffman’s points came on the power play.

Hoffman is also two years older.
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Why? They scored at nearly the same rate last year, with the difference that Coleman did it all at even strength and 50% of Hoffman’s points came on the power play.

Hoffman is also two years older.
Coleman also plays a 200 foot game, Hoffman not so much.
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His ask is apparently 5 x $5,580,000

He's a prime aged top 4 Dman.

It'll start with a 4 at least IMO

And that ask got him quickly exposed to expansion then and then traded.

Zadorov is in reality a 5-6 dman on a decent team.

If that’s his ask, I would go to arbitration and take my chances.


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Coleman also plays a 200 foot game, Hoffman not so much.
Because, POINTS MAN! Points are everything!!!! Who cares about 200 feet, there's only 100 feet that matters. Go Oilers!! Bring back to 80's! Fire wagon hockey whoooO!!!

Sign all the scorers, no need for role players and defensive guys.
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Funniest thing I've heard all day is Mike Johnson on TSN picking Vancouver as the best/most interesting moves of the day/lead up. My god.
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His ask is apparently 5 x $5,580,000

He's a prime aged top 4 Dman.

It'll start with a 4 at least IMO
Show me the last 10-15pt/season defenceman that made North of 4M??
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And that ask got him quickly exposed to expansion then and then traded.

Zadorov is in reality a 5-6 dman on a decent team.

If that’s his ask, I would go to arbitration and take my chances.


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Pardon my ignorance, but when was the last time a team truly won an arbitration case? Where the player played a huge role above his arbitrary contract?
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