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Old 07-28-2021, 11:58 AM   #301
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I know that when it comes to some "Flames fans", that absolutely nothing could please them, but going as far as trying to discredit Tanev's season, which was absolutely dominant and was BY FAR the Flames' best D-man is just hilarious
Yeah you have to want things to go badly to try and spin things that went right into less than they were.

Imagine living there??

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There are so many things to criticize about last season or Treliving’s moves, Tanev is just not one of them

There are also so many things to criticize about Zadorov but comparing him to Kieth is just not one of them

This thread is a mess. Tanev is awesome and Keith is terrible
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:59 AM   #303
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One final post on Tanev before I stop derailing this thread:


Vs. McDavid:


Tanev: 88:42 TOI, we outscored the Oilers 5-2 and out-possessed them confortably (62% xGF)
Tanev on the bench: 78:01 TOI, we got outscored 10-4 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF)


For comparison,
Giordano: 65:42 TOI, we got outscored 4-3 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF).


So yeah, Tanev played more against McDavid than any other D-man on the team and dominated that matchup.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:00 PM   #304
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We do need a shut down dman

How many times did we get pinned and can’t defend to save our lives

It’s suck to have good memories

Hopefully Zadorov is the one but it’s Treliving so who knows
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:01 PM   #305
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How many times did we get pinned and can’t defend to save our lives
Zadorov isn't known to be great at breaking the cycle.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:01 PM   #306
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One final post on Tanev before I stop derailing this thread:


Vs. McDavid:


Tanev: 88:42 TOI, we outscored the Oilers 5-2 and out-possessed them confortably (62% xGF)
Tanev on the bench: 78:01 TOI, we got outscored 10-4 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF)


For comparison,
Giordano: 65:42 TOI, we got outscored 4-3 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF).


So yeah, Tanev played more against McDavid than any other D-man on the team and dominated that matchup.
My God you didn't have to destroy ricardo like that

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If he was a dominant shutdown defenceman he should have been on the ice every time McDavid was out there.

He should have chased McDavid off the ice.

Next part of the legend of the Flames greatness 2020/21 was that Andersson/Gio actually did the heavy lifting.

The Flames had a top-5 Defense d-man ON THE 2ND pairing.

He was great and better than the moderate expectations that he had when he was signed. With Zardov getting more than 3.2M it make Tanev's contract look better.
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He shut McDavid totally down.... only 18 pts in 10 games against the Flames

Better than the Canucks shut down guy - Elder?
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:03 PM   #307
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This is a bad day for Ricardo ... and that says something!
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Yikes.

Way too much cap hit for 0 offense.
I wouldn't say that. Looking at Stas he puts up as many points as Tanev.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:05 PM   #309
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Blackhawks trade Zadorov and then sign McCabe to 4 million. Probably would have rather had McCabe but likely wasn't an option.
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This is a bad day for Ricardo ... and that says something!
Hey give him a break his oilers have had a real rough off season
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:09 PM   #311
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I wouldn't say that. Looking at Stas he puts up as many points as Tanev.
Yeah, and Tanev isn't making $5.85 million.

It's OK though, if that's Zadorov's ask, he'll likely be signing for less.

Hopefully it starts with a '4'
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One final post on Tanev before I stop derailing this thread:


Vs. McDavid:


Tanev: 88:42 TOI, we outscored the Oilers 5-2 and out-possessed them confortably (62% xGF)
Tanev on the bench: 78:01 TOI, we got outscored 10-4 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF)


For comparison,
Giordano: 65:42 TOI, we got outscored 4-3 and out-possessed heavily (41% xGF).


So yeah, Tanev played more against McDavid than any other D-man on the team and dominated that matchup.

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Zadorov isn't known to be great at breaking the cycle.
Come on man… I am learning to be positive
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There are so many things to criticize about last season or Treliving’s moves, Tanev is just not one of them

There are also so many things to criticize about Zadorov but comparing him to Kieth is just not one of them

This thread is a mess. Tanev is awesome and Keith is terrible
Who criticized Tanev? Most posters are saying he posted the best defensive stats , others are debating his overall value as an all round defenceman, the consensus seems to be that he was amazing last season.

Tanev is awesome Keith is Terrible? Okay yes. You know that poster was comparing Keith and Zadorov right?
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I like this move. Definitely a guy you want on your team vs. playing against. Hopefully the contract is decent.
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Hey give him a break his oilers have had a real rough off season
I thought he was a Jets fan?!?

Maybe I got my dumpy cities mixed up?
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I thought he was a Jets fan?!?

Maybe I got my dumpy cities mixed up?
Yup Jets fan, for some weird reason.
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Man, I’ve watched the Flames since inception and Tanev has to be one of the best defensive Dmen they’ve ever had. Reg was awesome but in a different style. Bob Murdoch right at the beginning.

This year, in the league, Slavin was in his league defensively, and arguably better. I can’t think of many others.
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Man, I’ve watched the Flames since inception and Tanev has to be one of the best defensive Dmen they’ve ever had. Reg was awesome but in a different style. Bob Murdoch right at the beginning.

This year, in the league, Slavin was in his league defensively, and arguably better. I can’t think of many others.
I agree, Tanev was amazing defensively.
However hopefully next season, to boost his offensive numbers, he shoots more........from center ice
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I thought he was a Jets fan?!?

Maybe I got my dumpy cities mixed up?
ricardodw is a "not the Flames" fan.
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