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				Jones still has a year left of 5.4m. 
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:21 PM
			
			
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			Was Jones still signed for this coming year? He couldn’t sign an extension for 8 years yet, then.  No, He can’t sign ANY extension yet.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:22 PM
			
			
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			So if he can't sign his extension until the 28th, how can he be signed and traded for picks in this draft?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:23 PM
			
			
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			He doesn't need to be signed before the draft. If he's traded with a year left on his deal, the Blackhawks can just re-sign him to an 8 year term because they're the previous rights holder now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:23 PM
			
			
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				He still has 1-year left on his current deal. The new 8-year extension doesn’t become official until July 28th, at which point Chicago will have Jones for the next 9 seasons. 
			
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This is not possible.  The extension can’t be signed until the UFA period begins.  And Chicago can’t sign him to an 8 year extension at that point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:24 PM
			
			
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			 Some kinda newsbreaker! 
			
			
			
				
			
			
				 
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				So if he can't sign his extension until the 28th, how can he be signed and traded for picks in this draft? 
			
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because he is still signed for the upcoming year.
 
the extension starts in the 22/23 season
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:24 PM
			
			
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				This is not possible.  The extension can’t be signed until the UFA period begins.  And Chicago can’t sign him to an 8 year extension at that point. 
			
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Why can't they? They'd be re-signing their own player in the last year of his contract.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:24 PM
			
			
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				who is trying to convince you?    
			
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Are you trying to convince yourself?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:25 PM
			
			
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				because he is still signed for the upcoming year. 
 
the extension starts in the 22/23 season 
			
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Do they not have to wait until the UFA starts (28th) for Chicago to actually sign the extension?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Do they not have to wait until the UFA starts (28th) for Chicago to actually sign the extension? 
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Are you trying to convince yourself? 
			
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I'd like somebody to try and convince me, if it's all the same.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Why can't they? They'd be re-signing their own player in the last year of his contract. 
			
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Fir the same reason that the Oilers need Toronto to sign and trade Hyman if they want an 8 year deal.
 
I think….?  It it just after ONE of the most recent trade deadline, and free agency day, or both?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:26 PM
			
			
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				Why can't they? They'd be re-signing their own player in the last year of his contract. 
			
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I don't believe extensions can be signed until the beginning of free agency in the offseason prior to the last year of the current deal, no?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:27 PM
			
			
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				Fir the same reason that the Oilers need Toronto to sign and trade Hyman if they want an 8 year deal. 
			
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Hyman is a FA now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:27 PM
			
			
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				I'd like somebody to try and convince me, if it's all the same. 
			
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Is it working?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:27 PM
			
			
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				Fir the same reason that the Oilers need Toronto to sign and trade Hyman if they want an 8 year deal. 
			
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Incorrect. Hyman's deal was expiring. Jones's isn't. If Hyman had another year left the Oilers could have done the same thing.
 
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				I don't believe extensions can be signed until the beginning of free agency in the offseason prior to the last year of the current deal, no? 
			
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Yes, so I assume this won't be officially done until next week. But they can absolutely re-sign him for 8 years, is the point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-23-2021, 06:28 PM
			
			
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				Hyman is a FA now. 
			
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In 5 days.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:28 PM
			
			
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				Fir the same reason that the Oilers need Toronto to sign and trade Hyman if they want an 8 year deal. 
			
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Hyman is a UFA in 5 days, Jones has a year left on his deal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:28 PM
			
			
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				This is not possible.  The extension can’t be signed until the UFA period begins.  And Chicago can’t sign him to an 8 year extension at that point. 
			
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Yes they can.
 
As I mentioned, extension doesn’t become official/get signed until July 28th, which is the first day of the last year of his current contract.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2021, 06:29 PM
			
			
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				Hyman is a FA now. 
			
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No, he’s still in the last year of his contract until the 28th.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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