Rumour: Blake Coleman to Calgary - Page 8 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

GioforPM · 07-23-2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

depends on the player of course. That being said 25 is still an age viewed as in/just entering a player's prime, especially for forwards, where as 29 is in/exiting the prime years... at least that is my view of it in the current nhl.

So is Coleman worth a 2nd liner contract over the next 5-6 years (assuming that's how much the flames would have to offer to get this type of deal done)?

I think the age window appears to be moving upwards for NHLers. There sure are a lot of 30+ players these days.

CSharp · 07-23-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Beard

This team needs winners. This guy is a winner.

Didn't we get guys like Brouwer and Neal who were winners, came to Calgary, and became bums?

Enoch Root · 07-23-2021, 11:00 AM

Never understood the complaints about starting a new thread. The title says what it is about - if you don't want to discuss it, don't open the thread. How is this a problem?

Poorly titled threads - now that is a different story.

Enoch Root · 07-23-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

depends on the player of course. That being said 25 is still an age viewed as in/just entering a player's prime, especially for forwards, where as 29 is in/exiting the prime years... at least that is my view of it in the current nhl.

So is Coleman worth a 2nd liner contract over the next 5-6 years (assuming that's how much the flames would have to offer to get this type of deal done)?

That's a valid question, and I would hope (if there is a deal) that a) it is less than 6 years, b) that it isn't for top 6 money, and c) that the Flames are not penciling him in to the top 6 for that length of time.

To me, he is a middle 6 guy that could be pushed up the lineup when needed, but be on the 3rd line when all pistons are firing (similar to Backlund)

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's a weird tweet. The post he responded to said it was an odd choice for Coleman, so far away, that Calgary wasn't going anywhere, and that Calgary would have to overpay.

So when he says "that's not accurate" what is he saying that about?

He responded again

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418618063881183237

Bingo · 07-23-2021, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mdubz

It could have gone into the Trade Speculation thread since it wasn't a credible source.

So a potential big add (still possible btw) can't have it's own topic?

I would guess if I put that to a vote you'd see you're not in the majority.

Excellent that we found something else to complain about though!

I honestly think I need a break from this place.

I hope you get past this massive slight. Thoughts and prayers.

Bingo · 07-23-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

He responded again

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418618063881183237

I honestly don't think this guy is very plugged in.

I don't have a clue if this is true or not, but we have several teams talking to UFAs with permission across the league (likely some without permission as well)

Moneyhands23 · 07-23-2021, 11:09 AM

Weird as he assumes his rights can't be traded then?

Wood · 07-23-2021, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mdubz

It could have gone into the Trade Speculation thread since it wasn't a credible source.

Are you really gonna argue with Bingo over what deserves a thread on his own website?

If it isn't thread worthy, it'll fall off the front page

ricardodw · 07-23-2021, 11:11 AM

If he signs with Calgary all the people on the Hyman Edmonton thread will be have identified how bad a signing this would be.

Hyman won't work for Edmonton Coleman won't work with Calgary.

He is better than Goodrow who signed 21.85 over 6 years 3.64 cap hit with a 15 team NTC

Chances are they won't be able to trade Coleman to Edmonton for Hyman in 2-3 years.

GioforPM · 07-23-2021, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

He responded again

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418618063881183237

Well, then I guess Hyman was never made an offer either.

If that's the reason he's poo-pooing it, he's not very good at his job.

Enoch Root · 07-23-2021, 11:13 AM

that second tweet suggests that he is not at all plugged in, just responding that it can't be true (because he doesn't know anything about it)

Vinny01 · 07-23-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

If he signs with Calgary all the people on the Hyman Edmonton thread will be have identified how bad a signing this would be.

Hyman won't work for Edmonton Coleman won't work with Calgary.

He is better than Goodrow who signed 21.85 over 6 years 3.64 cap hit with a 15 team NTC

Chances are they won't be able to trade Coleman to Edmonton for Hyman in 2-3 years.

We can’t say anything until the term and $ are revealed. It is known it will be a 7-8 year deal for Hyman. Anything more than 5 years on Coleman is a terrible move. If it is 5M x 4 years I take that over 5M x 8 years for Hyman

activeStick · 07-23-2021, 11:15 AM

I don't know enough about Coleman nor have I watched him play enough to know if I want him or not

CliffFletcher · 07-23-2021, 11:15 AM

FWIW, the Athletic has Coleman’s projected contract pegged at $4.7 mil x 4.2 years. They also have him ranked as the 10th most attractive UFA on the market, ahead of guys like Saad and Palmieri.

SportsJunky · 07-23-2021, 11:15 AM

Joe Smith is well liked by Tampa fans but I agree, he's not very plugged in.

GhostCookie · 07-23-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Weird as he assumes his rights can't be traded then?

And he's also ignoring that it isn't like Tampa thinks they can keep the whole gang together. So if they are realizing any particular players are just not coming back, why wouldn't they play deal broker to get a little something thrown in for their troubles? Further to that, they get a slight indirect say in where they go as well. If you think it's a valuable player, wouldn't you want him not just out of division, but out of conference as well.

sureLoss · 07-23-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well, then I guess Hyman was never made an offer either.

If that's the reason he's poo-pooing it, he's not very good at his job.

Well to be fair Hyman has been given permission to talk to other teams.

No reports that any of the TBL UFAs have been given permission to talk to other teams.

ricardodw · 07-23-2021, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

So a potential big add (still possible btw) can't have it's own topic?

I would guess if I put that to a vote you'd see you're not in the majority.

Excellent that we found something else to complain about though!

I honestly think I need a break from this place.

I hope you get past this massive slight. Thoughts and prayers.

I was wanting a Pettersson offer sheet under a separate thread rather than the Hyman thread.

Hey I hope that I have not been a stressor. Great site. Hard to stay away.

Bingo · 07-23-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

If he signs with Calgary all the people on the Hyman Edmonton thread will be have identified how bad a signing this would be.

Hyman won't work for Edmonton Coleman won't work with Calgary.

He is better than Goodrow who signed 21.85 over 6 years 3.64 cap hit with a 15 team NTC

Chances are they won't be able to trade Coleman to Edmonton for Hyman in 2-3 years.

Two players the same age.

Both probably decline in roughly 3-4 seasons.

The guy with more term left and more dollars per year will be the worse contract at that point, so I disagree that you couldn't trade Coleman for Hyman at that point if their declines are similar.