07-23-2021, 11:11 AM
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#81
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I’m always wary of these “role players that performed well on the stacked Stanley cup champions” new contracts. Usually doesn’t work out when they go to a weaker team and are given a bigger role.
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07-23-2021, 11:12 AM
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#82
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
I’m always wary of these “role players that performed well on the stacked Stanley cup champions” new contracts. Usually doesn’t work out when they go to a weaker team and are given a bigger role.
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Let’s hope he has a Jiri Hudler outcome
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07-23-2021, 11:12 AM
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#83
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Given that no actual insider has commented on this I am thinking this will not happen
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07-23-2021, 11:12 AM
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#84
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How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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07-23-2021, 11:12 AM
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#85
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I think Coleman is a beauty. That’s a very solid add in my mind. He will be another great add to the PK, and he will have at least 2 SH goals. I’m also pretty sure it means someone in the top 9 is on his way out. Now we just need to wait for term and money.
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07-23-2021, 11:13 AM
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#86
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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He seems to be a late bloomer. It looks like we went through two drafts and has steadily progressed while in the NHL.
Tampa Players by points per 60 minutes:
Stamkos: 2.939
Palat: 2.875
Point: 2.790
Colton: 2.272
Gourde: 2.259
Coleman: 2.187
Looks like he might've been a bit underrated.
Comparing to the Flames:
Gaudreau: 2.851
Lindholm: 2.531
Tkachuk: 2.538
Mangiapane: 2.057
Backlund: 2.021
Monahan: 1.900
Last edited by 1qqaaz; 07-23-2021 at 11:17 AM.
Reason: Edit, my first source lied to me
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07-23-2021, 11:13 AM
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#87
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
I’m always wary of these “role players that performed well on the stacked Stanley cup champions” new contracts. Usually doesn’t work out when they go to a weaker team and are given a bigger role.
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Coleman had very strong results in New Jersey as well
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07-23-2021, 11:13 AM
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#88
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
I’m always wary of these “role players that performed well on the stacked Stanley cup champions” new contracts. Usually doesn’t work out when they go to a weaker team and are given a bigger role.
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21 goals in 57 games for NJ prior to being dealt to Tampa.
He's a very good player three zone player.
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07-23-2021, 11:14 AM
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#89
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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Probably.
With their cap situation they would have no way to re-sign either him or Goodrow.
Might as well try to recoup an asset if a team is willing to trade for his rights to sign him early.
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07-23-2021, 11:16 AM
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#90
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#1 Goaltender
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I love this move if we sign him for less and for shorter than Hyman. Very similar players in my mind
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07-23-2021, 11:16 AM
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#91
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If true, I really like the additions of Coleman and Pitlick with respect to changing up the chemistry of the forwards - starting to add more '2004 types'. Please keep that trend going!
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07-23-2021, 11:16 AM
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#92
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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I believe I read Tampa is happy to let teams talk to their UFA’s to get assets back in sign and trades.
This could be like the a Wideman signing where the Flames talked to him and got a deal done then traded a 5th to the Caps
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07-23-2021, 11:16 AM
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#93
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Uncle Chester
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Coleman is good. He's going to be expensive.
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07-23-2021, 11:17 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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Don't know if they are giving permission to talk to teams, but Lebrun tweeted this morning they are still shopping the rights to Savard and Coleman a la Goodrow.
If they were close to signing him, you would think a trade would occur.
Last edited by sureLoss; 07-23-2021 at 11:20 AM.
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07-23-2021, 11:18 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Neither here nor there
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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Yup. Tampa GM sent a message out to all the other GM's that Coleman, Goodrow, and Savard were available to "jump the queue" on.
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07-23-2021, 11:19 AM
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#96
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Don't know if they are giving permission to talk to teams, but Lebrun tweeted this morning they are still shopping the rights to Savard and Coleman a la Goodrow
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What's the cost? A sixth or seventh rounder?
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07-23-2021, 11:21 AM
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#97
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
How do they know this already? Tampa grant permission for him to talk to teams early?
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Friedman has commented that a bunch of tampering has been going on this offseason. Not directly, but GMs will talk to an agent of a player and say they want a player that fits x parameters and make it obvious who they're talking about, gauge interest & figure out that way who they're going to sign.
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07-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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#98
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Originally Posted by chummer
What's the cost? A sixth or seventh rounder?
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I guess everyone is waiting on the Oilers to set the market on that with Hyman.
Treliving would be smart to get that done before Holland sends a 2nd round pick to the Leafs
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07-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chummer
What's the cost? A sixth or seventh rounder?
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Goodrow got a 7th, so in that ball park.
Might be slightly higher if multiple teams want that player.
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07-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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#100
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Wasn't there a rumored failed deal or something a few years ago of the Flames trying to get Coleman from NJ?
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