Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[oldschoolcalgary]

the big issue, imo, for the Kings and Anaheim to give up young potential stars is the alignment of their competitive window.

Paying Eichel max money now doesn't make a ton of sense if they don't have a competitive roster...If Bynam and Zegras are what most think they are, it would make more sense for them to stand pat and allow their development to scale up with their roster...

Eichel, seems like a guy for teams in the middle third to jump up into the top third of the standings.

I guess we'll have to find out where he lands

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Resign Johnny please….. 6.5x7

Tkachuk and Monahan and Andersson for Eichel and Ristolainen right after the expansion draft.

He's a little young for that.

[DeluxeMoustache]

If LA got Eichel, they would have 3 players over 10 million. Not an ideal way to distribute 81 million

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I was kidding, don’t read it as snarky

I do wonder what the conversation has been around Tkachuk. Have the Flames even offered him or do Buffalo even want him? Would love to be a fly on the wall

This is my take too.

NRD on twitter has the players rumoured from the NYR and BUF as:

Wild: Rossi, Dumba, Kahkonen

NYR: Kravtsov, Chytil, Buchnevich, Schneider

He didn't say that it would includ all of those players, but those are the players being discussed as part of the package.

Personally I think Tkachuk would be a better starting point than any of those pieces. Makes me think either Buffalo isn't interested in his contract, or the Flames never offered him up.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Resign Johnny please….. 6.5x7

Tkachuk and Monahan and Andersson for Eichel and Ristolainen right after the expansion draft.

If you want Johnny to go to UFA, make that offer to him. And duck.


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[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

If LA got Eichel, they would have 3 players over 10 million. Not an ideal way to distribute 81 million

Kyle Dubas would like a word with you.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Wouldn't be like the Flames to miss out on acquiring a legit number 1 C

They were that close to getting Brad Richards

[codynw]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

Kyle Dubas would like a word with you.

Well that strategy isn't really working for Dubas since the Leafs have won exactly zero playoff rounds since signing all of those deals.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by keenan87

It would be awesome to get Eichel and see the matchup against McDavid in the BOA. If that won't hype him up to another gear, not sure what will.

Yep playing against Matthews/Marner, Point/Kucherov/Stamkos, Barkov, Bergeron/Marchand and getting shut down by Danault just not enough of a challenge to get worked up about.

He would get the same challenge with Seattle or Vegas with a better chance of success.

This makes me think back to the idea a few years ago that top notch players wanted to play in Calgary because they might get some ice time with Iginla. Now they want a chance to play against McDavid.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lol what team has 4-5 players better than Gaudreau? There are 9 players in the entire league with a better ppg than him since he joined the NHL

The high ppg that he and Monahan have put together over the last 7 years has not translated to the Flames being a good to great team as it has for basically every other player in the top 30 with those kind of individual stats.

1 finish in the top 2 of their division and 1 playoff series win over 7 seasons is not the kind of results that you would expect from a top 10 player in the league.

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On Philly, his most likely landing spot, Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Hayes and JVR along with Provorov moves Gaudreau into a far more comfortable support position taking Konecny's spot as small skilled forward.

Philly's window is closing as Giroux, Voracek and JVR age out and take up too much cap space for their contribution.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Yep playing against Matthews/Marner, Point/Kucherov/Stamkos, Barkov, Bergeron/Marchand and getting shut down by Danault just not enough of a challenge to get worked up about.

He would get the same challenge with Seattle or Vegas with a better chance of success.

This makes me think back to the idea a few years ago that top notch players wanted to play in Calgary because they might get some ice time with Iginla. Now they want a chance to play against McDavid.

Just Eichel

Unsatisfied just playing best on best vs any team on any given night, rather obsessed with avenging the draft snub where the guy who has 200 more points than him was picked first. Despite having the last laugh as that player was banished to NHL Siberia, Eichel is so obsessed he would follow him to the ends of the earth, and is seeking a posting in the nearest outpost

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Resign Johnny please….. 6.5x7

Tkachuk and Monahan and Andersson for Eichel and Ristolainen right after the expansion draft.

I am not sure how Gaudreau will age...my instinct would be...not well. I love what he can bring for the next 4 years...not sure thereafter. If we lose him...it will be bad for the team as he is an unparalleled player in terms of skill and point production on the team. If we keep him...it will be bad for the team because right when we would come out of a reload we will likely have Johnny as a PP specialist and not much else.

It sucks...I want to re-sign 24 year old Gaudreau now to 7 years...

[devo22]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

They were that close to getting Brad Richards

probably for the better that it didn't happen in the end, but I was really pissed when we missed out on him. Liked him a lot as a player and would have loved to see him with Iggy.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I am not sure how Gaudreau will age...my instinct would be...not well. I love what he can bring for the next 4 years...not sure thereafter. If we lose him...it will be bad for the team as he is an unparalleled player in terms of skill and point production on the team. If we keep him...it will be bad for the team because right when we would come out of a reload we will likely have Johnny as a PP specialist and not much else.

It sucks...I want to re-sign 24 year old Gaudreau now to 7 years...

I see Gaudreau being capable of maintaining his level of play (70 pts per season) for the next 5-6 years. It's not like he plays a physical game that will wear him down. A lot of game is his play making skills and that doesn't really deteriorate with age.

I'm not saying we sign him at any cost, but if you can sign to $8-8.5 for 7 or 8 years they probably should do it. The alternative is to trade him, but I don't think his trade value with one year left on his contract will be anything special.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Just Eichel

Unsatisfied just playing best on best vs any team on any given night, rather obsessed with avenging the draft snub where the guy who has 200 more points than him was picked first. Despite having the last laugh as that player was banished to NHL Siberia, Eichel is so obsessed he would follow him to the ends of the earth, and is seeking a posting in the nearest outpost

I never really thought of McDavid as Eichel’s white whale.

[ComixZone]

Flames back in on Eichel?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418161411591712769

“Some of the teams I reported as out last week, are edging back in”

“Calgary has a lot of cap-room now, what are they going to do with that?”

[Vinny01]

Dreger on the Jay Onrait show last night was talking about how Treliving is one of the most active and creative GM’s out there.

If I take anything out of that I really think he is trying to work a 3 way trade where Tkachuk is sent to another team and futures from the flames and that other team are sent to Buffalo

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Dreger on the Jay Onrait show last night was talking about how Treliving is one of the most active and creative GM’s out there.

If I take anything out of that I really think he is trying to work a 3 way trade where Tkachuk is sent to another team and futures from the flames and that other team are sent to Buffalo

I’d love to see a summer where we extend Johnny and acquire Eichel. Eichel-Lindholm as your 1-2 punch down the middle? That’d be somethin’.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I’d love to see a summer where we extend Johnny and acquire Eichel. Eichel-Lindholm as your 1-2 punch down the middle? That’d be somethin’.

Me too. Just for once I would to see the Flames land the big fish in a trade.

[Monahammer]

Landing Eichel would be the salve to many wounds.