07-21-2021, 11:22 AM
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#101
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Gio to Edmonton might have been the only possibility then, but trading your captain to your rival is probably not something the team wanted to do.
Philly landing Ellis is a huge get, I don't see them being interested in Gio given their other rumoured target was Seth Jones.
And Detroit is still Detroit. Gio also has a NTC, remember.
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Not to mention that Edmonton was almost assuredly one of the teams he would refuse to be traded too.
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07-21-2021, 11:22 AM
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#102
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
You wanted Treliving to trade Gio to Edmonton?
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Yes if it was possible. Look how much they gave up for negative value Keith
I’d take trading Gio to a division rival for a great return instead of losing Gio to a division rival for no return
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07-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
If it makes Calgary better, why wouldn't every option be exhausted?
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Who does Calgary get from Edmonton that makes Calgary better? Also, tell me Edmonton is on Gio's 19 team list.
ETA: and you are improving Edmonton a lot more than you can ever improve Calgary. Gio is just what they need. Instead, they got Keith and are weaker.
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07-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I will wait and see if a trade is made before jumping to any conclusions here. Friedman did say the Kraken would get calls regarding Gio so we knew this was possible.
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07-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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#105
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
If it makes Calgary better, why wouldn't every option be exhausted?
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What makes you think Gio would have agreed to move to Edmonton over Seattle or NY?
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07-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45
Yes if it was possible. Look how much they gave up for negative value Keith
I’d take trading Gio to a division rival for a great return instead of losing Gio to a division rival for no return
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NTCs - what are they?
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07-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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#107
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#1 Goaltender
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It’s super obvious that the plan was to expose Tanev before he played so well he literally ruined the plan
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07-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
He seems to have given Giordano to Seattle for free, which in turn gave Seattle assets. Assets that are likely in the form of something that this team needs desperately (draft picks).
Both are division rivals.
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Not all division rivals are equal. I am not sure Gio ever plays a game for Seattle. Had the Oilers had the chance to send a 3rd and Jones to the Flames for Gio over Keith I am sure they would have jumped at that and he skates with them next year.
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07-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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#109
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Participant 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
He seems to have given Giordano to Seattle for free, which in turn gave Seattle assets. Assets that are likely in the form of something that this team needs desperately (draft picks).
Both are division rivals.
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So far the only thing we know that was actually on the table was keeping Gio for a 1st and a 3rd, which the team needs desperately, as you said.
For all we know, every offer included a player we would have to protect on either D or F. So it could just as easily have turned into us losing Gio + another player for a middling draft pick. I'm don't think that would've been worth it, so it's also just another hypothetical that isn't worth reacting to.
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07-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Who does Calgary get from Edmonton that makes Calgary better? Also, tell me Edmonton is on Gio's 19 team list. 
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Don't move the goalposts, you asked if a poster wanted to trade Giordano to Edmonton. In your question, you are assuming it's a possibility.
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07-21-2021, 11:24 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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It's going to be really funny when it turns out there was nothing to this and he's staying with Seattle.
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07-21-2021, 11:25 AM
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#112
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
NTCs - what are they?
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That’s why I said if it was possible
He’s been in Calgary for 1.5 decades. Not ridiculous to think the list didn't include Edmonton for how close it is. We’ll probably never know what his 10 teams were
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07-21-2021, 11:25 AM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
NTCs - what are they?
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I guessing you mean M-NTC (i.e. he has to list 19 teams he would be traded to)
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07-21-2021, 11:25 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
What makes you think Gio would have agreed to move to Edmonton over Seattle or NY?
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Again, that wasn't the question.
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07-21-2021, 11:25 AM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
If it makes Calgary better, why wouldn't every option be exhausted?
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Does a late draft pick and throw away prospect make it worth the Flames while to make their most hated rivals significantly better?
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07-21-2021, 11:25 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I'm just not sure I buy the "he couldn't be traded because he needed to be protected if he was traded before the draft!" thing, given that Detroit, Edmonton, and Philly all added (and protected) Nick Leddy, Duncan Keith, and Ryan Ellis prior to the roster freeze.
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Well Edmonton showed why it was a bad idea. They lost Larsson to Seattle cause of that Keith trade and overpaid. Philly was a wash protection wise I believe and Leddy was dumped.
The only real move was to trade him last deadline which is a different discussion. See if this trade even goes down today but Gio is likely to be flipped by Seattle by the deadline anyways.
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07-21-2021, 11:26 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not all division rivals are equal. I am not sure Gio ever plays a game for Seattle. Had the Oilers had the chance to send a 3rd and Jones to the Flames for Gio over Keith I am sure they would have jumped at that and he skates with them next year.
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And then Jones gets exposed and probably taken, Gio helps Edmonton to PO success (if anyone could it's him). Yeah, no one would have wanted Treliving's head over that.
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07-21-2021, 11:27 AM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Does a late draft pick and throw away prospect make it worth the Flames while to make their most hated rivals significantly better?
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Is that what Chicago got back for Keith (who had less value than Gio).
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07-21-2021, 11:27 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
I guessing you mean M-NTC (i.e. he has to list 19 teams he would be traded to)
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Yes, and I can guarantee that Edmonton is not one of those 19.
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07-21-2021, 11:27 AM
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#120
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
If it makes Calgary better, why wouldn't every option be exhausted?
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I mean...
"LeBrun: Flames are looking at every single scenario to try and keep Giordano"
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