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GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 868904

You need two goalies and Price is might be on LTIR for the first few months.

It won't be any different than what the Habs have been doing for the past 2 years.

Right, but I'm not paying Price's tab unless I think I can contend pretty quickly. does Seattle really think that? Vegas was an anomoly.

bdubbs · 07-19-2021, 03:01 PM

Man, those Montreal fans would be livid to see Carey Price in a Bruins jersey. And for that reason, I'm in.

DeluxeMoustache · 07-19-2021, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Right, but I'm not paying Price's tab unless I think I can contend pretty quickly. does Seattle really think that? Vegas was an anomoly.

They have an advantage over most pacific teams basically equivalent to what Tampa had adding Kucherov

No dead cap, and an opportunity to select all good value for money contracts. A very good opportunity to build a 4 line team.

No Brouwer, no Lucic, no Simon / Nordstrom / Leivo / Ritchie

We will see if Vegas was an anomaly because they are entering under similar rules

cam_wmh · 07-19-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

Seattle would not be able to trade Price without his consent either.

Where are you citing that from ?

I don’t think that’s the case. Example, Fleury.

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

They have an advantage over most pacific teams basically equivalent to what Tampa had adding Kucherov

No dead cap, and an opportunity to select all good value for money contracts.

We will see if Vegas was an anomaly because they are entering under similar rules

Based on the lists, and the mock drafts, yeah this won't be anywhere near as good a team.

They won't have the Kucherov advantage unless they are (a) at the cap; (b) can make the POs without Price and (c) Price comes back just in time for the POs.

You have to have an extremely strong team without the player in order to take that kind of advantage. And a missing goalie is a lot harder to deal with than a missing winger.

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Where are you citing that from ?

I don’t think that’s the case.

He has a NMC. He waived it for the draft.

devo22 · 07-19-2021, 03:10 PM

he's got an NMC, you'd assume he only waived it for the expansion draft but retains it for future trades.

I don't get the Price rumours in all honesty, given his injury rumours and contract numbers. If Seattle choose Driedger, Kahkonen and Vanecek, they are set for years at a fraction of the cost.

Buff · 07-19-2021, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

True, though I bet he'd go cup hunting, especially if Seattle isn't a good team. The Bruins may have one more shot.

Wouldn't that be something.

First the Kraken take Price for free from the Canadiens. Then they trade him to the Bruins.

flambers · 07-19-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Where are you citing that from ?

I don’t think that’s the case.

Price has a NMC clause, it would need to be waiver each time he is traded if applicable. Price has already waived his NMC for the expansion draft.

This does not eliminate the NMC, it has removed it for one transaction if applicable

(insider posted this last week )

cam_wmh · 07-19-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

He has a NMC. He waived it for the draft.

Waiving his NMC for expansion exposure is irrelevant, to being traded by the expansion club after acquiring him.

Price would retain his NMC after Seattle acquires him.

sleepingmoose · 07-19-2021, 03:13 PM

Hardly the definitive authority on the NMC, but these guys generally have a good idea:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416558549338103809

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buff

Wouldn't that be something.

First the Kraken take Price for free from the Canadiens. Then they trade him to the Bruins.

Bruins have $25M in space and no goalies. They have to replace or sign a few CAs, though I'm assuming Hall and Kreji aren't going to be in the mix and without them, signings aren't that tough. They could afford Price.

Scroopy Noopers · 07-19-2021, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

He has a NMC. He waived it for the draft.

That’s not how that works.

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

That’s not how that works.

I'm not saying he waived it for all purposes, just explaining how he is in the draft with a NMC.

AS for the rest, my bet is he would waive for the right opportunity to win a cup.

cam_wmh · 07-19-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm not saying he waived it for all purposes, just explaining how he is in the draft with a NMC.

Confusing but ok.

PepsiFree · 07-19-2021, 03:17 PM

Could Seattle talk to him now and see who he'd be willing to be traded to?

I guess his team could call their bluff, but saying "We're going to take you, though other teams have expressed interest in acquiring you..." etc. To set up a selection and trade scenario. I'm sure there would be takers at a high price for Price with salary retained.

Scroopy Noopers · 07-19-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm not saying he waived it for all purposes, just explaining how he is in the draft with a NMC.

AS for the rest, my bet is he would waive for the right opportunity to win a cup.

Gotcha. Just seems to be a common mistaken belief that a player traded with a NMC no longer retains that NMC.

I’m with you on the cup thing, and I actually thing Price did this as a chance to get out of there without either requesting it, or having a GM decide to. Almost like a “oops, I really didn’t think they’d take me… still love me montreal” but hoping that the team Seattle puts together has a better chance than the Canadians, which is probably a fair bet at this point.

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Confusing but ok.

That's my fault. Someone asked why his consent to be traded was required and I should have said "because he has an NMC" and left it at that. I just added the rest because I thought the person might be confused as to why he was exposed at all then.

GioforPM · 07-19-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Gotcha. Just seems to be a common mistaken belief that a player traded with a NMC no longer retains that NMC.

I’m with you on the cup thing, and I actually thing Price did this as a chance to get out of there without either requesting it, or having a GM decide to. Almost like a “oops, I really didn’t think they’d take me… still love me montreal” but hoping that the team Seattle puts together has a better chance than the Canadians, which is probably a fair bet at this point.

It's kind of funny that this is not a farfetched take (expansion team has better chance than cup finalist).

DeluxeMoustache · 07-19-2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Based on the lists, and the mock drafts, yeah this won't be anywhere near as good a team.

They won't have the Kucherov advantage unless they are (a) at the cap; (b) can make the POs without Price and (c) Price comes back just in time for the POs.

You have to have an extremely strong team without the player in order to take that kind of advantage. And a missing goalie is a lot harder to deal with than a missing winger.

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I was saying that it was equivalent to Kucherov in the sense that most Pacific teams have a number of poorly utilized dollars around 8 million. Not in the sense that they can add a player after the season

The Kraken have the opportunity to use all 81.5 million whereas other teams have more like 70-75 million to use as they are holding the bag for their bad decisions