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[Philly06Cup]

Weird how many people have Kraken taking Gostibehere. He was on waivers earlier this year and no one claimed him. There are cap/expansion implications, but that strongly implies his contract is negative value. JVR is the obvious choice being a 30 goal scorer with only two years left on a reasonable contract.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by bax

Rask said he would only play Boston

I think this is it… I don’t think he is retired officially yet is he? Maybe I missed that.

[Sylvanfan]

Ron Francis was very pragmatic in building up the Carolina Hurricanes, and I expect he will be the same with the Kraken.

They'll have a chance to have good goaltending and defence, but goal scoring will likely be the biggest challenge. That said, I think he'll pretty much draft a team where he only assumes 1-2 contracts that go more than 2 years. So if he's going to splurge on his cap space, I can see him going for guys like Tarasenko who has a shorter term deal who might still be able to come close to 30 goals if given lot's of ice time. I think he'll avoid the more expensive longer deals that are offered. Afterall, he can go back to those teams after, and see just how badly they want out of those contracts. So yeah, I'll take Justin Braun and Calle Jarnkrok, and than see what else I can get to take a Vorachek or Johansen off those guys hands.

For Tampa, I think I'm looking really hard at Mathieu Joseph. He had 12 goals last year and is scheduled to make 737500 this year and turned 24 in February. Given more ice time he could break out and be a 20 goal and 40 plus point player for you. Plus you can still go back to Tampa and tell them that you might be able to help out their cap if they make it worth your while.

Guys like Braun and Gio can be traded at the deadline for more draft capital as early as next year, and it keeps his cap very manageable going forward. This is the guy who got Teravainen for assuming the contract of Bryan Bickell.

[FanIn80]

Is "draft and trade" a thing? Like, can Seattle draft a UFA and then trade him to a team for early-negotiation rights?

Using Ovechkin as an example... Because he's unprotected, Seattle is as of now able to talk to him about a contract, correct? Now, let's say the 21st comes along and they draft him. He's now Seattle's property, and the Capitals are no longer able to talk to him, correct?

So now, even though Ovechkin may have already verbally agreed to a contract offer from the Capitals prior to all of this, he's now cut off from communicating with them from the point he's drafted on the 21st until free agency opens on the 28th. Teams have traded early negotiating rights to UFAs in the past, what's stopping Seattle from trying to negotiate a contract with him now until the 21st, and then, if unable to accomplish that, drafting him anyway and then finding a team like Las Vegas who might be willing to give something up to have their own shot at negotiating with him?

I mean, yeah, it's kind of a long shot since it's Ovechkin and the Capitals... but Hamilton and Carolina aren't exactly married. I'm just saying, it seems kinda weird to me to not protect someone like Ovechkin or even Hamilton.

[Roof-Daddy]

I would take Voracek over JVR myself but I can see the merit for either. Voracek is a playmaker and I think he'd pair well with a healthy Tarasenko.

Definite no to Ghost if I'm picking.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Weird how many people have Kraken taking Gostisbehere.

Pure sentimentality. A Ghost Bear should be playing in the Pacific Northwest.

Spoiler!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Weird how many people have Kraken taking Gostibehere. He was on waivers earlier this year and no one claimed him. There are cap/expansion implications, but that strongly implies his contract is negative value. JVR is the obvious choice being a 30 goal scorer with only two years left on a reasonable contract.

There’s not many offensive defenseman available and under contract. His biggest competition for the role are Deangelo (a PR nightmare for liberal Seattle) and rapidly declining Shattenkirk. It makes sense given the context.

[Bs&Cs]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Crazy?

He is retired, and if he decides to return, he’s made it clear he is playing for Boston or no one.

You might need to spank that fact checker of yours.


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You may wanna check with yours as well. He most certainly hasn't retired. He's having surgery and isn't expected to be ready to go until at least February of next year. At that point he will inform the Bruins if he feels he's recovered enough to play this coming season.

If the team isn't interested in his services at that point, then he'll probably retire but nothing of that nature has been announced at this point.

[CASe333]

Originally Posted by Philly06Cup

Weird how many people have Kraken taking Gostibehere. He was on waivers earlier this year and no one claimed him. There are cap/expansion implications, but that strongly implies his contract is negative value. JVR is the obvious choice being a 30 goal scorer with only two years left on a reasonable contract.

This was reported pretty recently from a reputable source:

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/0...o-do-list.html

The Kraken will select Vladimir Tarasenko from the St. Louis Blues in the expansion draft.
Seattle will then trade Tarasenko to the Flyers for Voracek and a draft pick. I’m told it’s not the first rounder either. So, let’s say a 2 or a 3.
The Kraken then select Robert Hägg from the Flyers in the expansion draft.

This is certainly fluid, and could change in the next day or so, but from what I can gather, and putting the puzzle pieces together, this is next on Chuck Fletcher’s flow chart

[djsFlames]

Archibald, Skinner and Kassian protected makes me piss myself laughing.

The junk to good ratio is so poor there that they had to inevitably protect some of their roster fat.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

This may have been mentioned in this or the E=NG threads, by why doesn't Francis sign Smith for $1m x 2.

And just completely bone the Oilers.

That would completely sewer them.

And no good goalie seems to want to sign there either. Would be hilarious.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Cali, Vince Dunn is not on the farm

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Crazy that Tuuka Rask is available. Could be a great starter actually, he was pretty damn good for Boston this year and in the playoffs even at his older age. Plus comes in at a significantly smaller cap hit than Price and then you could nab a guy like Drouin or Danault from Montreal. So many good players out there.

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I think this is it… I don’t think he is retired officially yet is he? Maybe I missed that.

Plus Danault, like Rask is a UFA. So they're suuuuper cheap at $0/yr.

[loob job]

I'm always shocked at who the expansion team picks. It's rarely ever a big name player.

[Flamesfan05]

Francis should save the cash. Can always trade for overpaid contracts for profit later. Tampa and the like may have to give up multiple picks to get rid of the fat contracts

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by loob job

I'm always shocked at who the expansion team picks. It's rarely ever a big name player.

Yes because big names have negative value.

For example, Nashville would have to pay some one to take johansen or Duchene. Not the other way around. Same with the Flyers for Gosh and Voracek. Only expiring contracts like Gio’s are worth something

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes because big names have negative value.

For example, Nashville would have to pay some one to take johansen or Duchene. Not the other way around. Same with the Flyers for Gosh and Voracek. Only expiring contracts like Gio’s are worth something

I don't think people realize how easy it is for an big contract to cause a player to have negative value.
Especially if the players are older.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I don't think people realize how easy it is for an big contract to cause a player to have negative value.
Especially if the players are older.

Age is irrelevant. Performing to the level of the contract is all that teams want.
If you are a player with a big ticket and you're not playing up to that level, teams making a deal are going to demand compensation for the gap. Take our own Matthew Tkachuk. His performance last season was well below what you expect of a $7M player. He repeats that and he becomes a bit of financial problem. Then add in his qualifying offer into the mix, and that young stud player may not be quite as attractive. He really needs to step his game up this season or he could be a young player that becomes a negative value contract if the team tries to move him.

[sureLoss]

Seattle ownership has given the green light to select Price if Francis thinks it is the right move.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1417125119500201986

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Age is irrelevant. Performing to the level of the contract is all that teams want.
If you are a player with a big ticket and you're not playing up to that level, teams making a deal are going to demand compensation for the gap. Take our own Matthew Tkachuk. His performance last season was well below what you expect of a $7M player. He repeats that and he becomes a bit of financial problem. Then add in his qualifying offer into the mix, and that young stud player may not be quite as attractive. He really needs to step his game up this season or he could be a young player that becomes a negative value contract if the team tries to move him.

Partially true but age does matter. A Tkachuk has a chance of turning his career around. A guy like Neal or Lucic has zero chance. The older they get the less .