[News] Giordano left unprotected in expansion draft

[Macman]

I think that Johnny Gaudreau should be given consideration for Captain if the Flames lose Mark Giordano.
He should be given an A at least especially if the Flames re-sign him, he is one of the top scorers on the team.
I actually thought he matured quite a bit last year, seemed leaner and a bit quicker and stronger.
I would think the A's should have an element of who the best player is on the ice and even fan favorite and not just who the best guys are in the room.

Theo was Captain and he was a smaller player, a bit different but still.

[djsFlames]

If Tkachuk got the C though, could that possibly help to be a catalyst and elevate his game?

He is well spoken and appears to be motivated by opportunity. I know the tough year will deter many, but he's had his share of adversity and challenges, and maybe it would give him the sense of pride he needs to go out there with maximum swagger and do his thing.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

McDavid would be a much better captain and post season player if they had him work under the mentorship of a strong veteran who would pass the C on when the time was right.

Instead they went about it like 12 year olds playing gm on the Xbox.

Zero concept of development.

Your captain isn't necessarily supposed to be your best player either. Looch has those leadership intangibles in spades and has won before, and has been probably a top 3 performer in the playoffs for us, despite being over the hump.

I wouldn't mind him, Backlund (though ideally a couple years ago), Tanev or maybe Lindholm.

Mangiapane or Dube in a few years will be excellent candidates though I think.

I could see Lindholm.

"Captain Zebulon" has a nice ring to it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Wasn’t that just John Shannon making a metaphor? Like as in, Dougie Hamilton isn’t wired like a typical professional athlete? I mean, he did win the Scholastic player of the year when he was in juniors. Just check out his high school averages:

“Hamilton, a 17-year-old from Toronto, ON, attends Governor Simcoe Secondary School in St. Catharines where he maintains an overall academic average of 94% in six Grade 12 level courses including marks of 97% in Calculus, 95% in Physics, 95% in Personal and Fitness, 92% in English, 92% in Biology, and 91% in Chemistry. This is Hamilton’s second straight Academic Award after winning the Ivan Tennant Memorial Award in his rookie season.”

https://ontariohockeyleague.com/iced...er-of-the-year


Kid was always a brainiac, not a jock.

This is true. However, the “tone it down” statement was never a verbatim quote either. It is, however, probably an honest take from some players who didn’t want to be in a big after whistle scrum every single time Tkachuk decided to be a dick to the goalie or felt some perceived slight by another player.

ETA: I don’t even think tone it down is that bad - it’s akin to “pick your spots” - cause a commotion when it makes sense, not every time.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

I think it would be Lindholm. I think Sutter is a huge fan of his and he plays the game the right way.

I agree. He's the type of player that they Flames should build around plus hes signed for 3 more years too.

Lindholm (C) - Lucic (A) - Backlund (A) - Tanev (A) - Tkachuk (A) is the leadership group I'd like to see.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by camm13

I agree. He's the type of player that they Flames should build around plus hes signed for 3 more years too.

Lindholm (C) - Lucic (A) - Backlund (A) - Tanev (A) - Tkachuk (A) is the leadership group I'd like to see.

3 years is the perfect stop gap to a Mangiapane/Dube captaincy.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

3 years is the perfect stop gap to a Mangiapane/Dube captaincy.

I hope Lindholm is still here after this contract

[Chi-Town Hustler]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

3 years is the perfect stop gap to a Mangiapane/Dube captaincy.

That's funny. Dube isn't that good. Bottom six at best.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town Hustler

That's funny. Dube isn't that good. Bottom six at best.

Forget the green text or just trolling?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town Hustler

That's funny. Dube isn't that good. Bottom six at best.

Dube is also in the toddler stage of his NHL career.

His ceiling will become much more clear after this season. Weird year for him last year with the Sutter dynamic, but he had flashes of awesome tenacity and skill.

[Weirdness]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Some teams are so deep that Seattle will have 4 or 5 very good players to choose from. Calgary has 1, who is 38, and on the decline.

Five years ago Vegas had no good signed players to choose off the Flames and had to pick a UFA. Sad state the Flames are in that in five years they really haven’t accumulated much depth

The Valimaki injury really... "helped?" It's rose-coloured glasses for sure but I think if he was available Seattle would take him without a second thought. Fells bad to say a guy suffering from a horrible year-long injury "helps" our team though heh

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Dube is also in the toddler stage of his NHL career.

His ceiling will become much more clear after this season. Weird year for him last year with the Sutter dynamic, but he had flashes of awesome tenacity and skill.

Dube could be anywhere from a good top 6 player or not.

He’s certainly an NHL player.

My bet is he takes a decent step this year.


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[Jiri Hrdina]

I think Dube is a classic "middle 6" and tops out in that area.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Dube is a classic "middle 6" and tops out in that area.

I could see a Backlund-esque career out of him. 2nd line guy, constant arguments about whether he’s actually a 3rd line guy.

I think he’ll be solid.

[djsFlames]

The thing about Dube that sticks out is his drive. Kid drives the net (and with finish) like your classic middle six player won't often do. He appears to have an extra gear that could be exploited under the right coaches/leadership.

Labelling him this early as ordinary might be short sighted. I have a feeling about him.

[Mull]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

If Tkachuk got the C though, could that possibly help to be a catalyst and elevate his game?

He is well spoken and appears to be motivated by opportunity. I know the tough year will deter many, but he's had his share of adversity and challenges, and maybe it would give him the sense of pride he needs to go out there with maximum swagger and do his thing.

Call me old school, but I think the captain status should be earned.

You shouldn't get it to motivate you, that is not the quality of a captain I want. Needing the C for the extra motivation Doesn't scream "give it up for the team"

Lucic should be a run away.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Dube is a classic "middle 6" and tops out in that area.

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but this is how I feel about Mangiapane as well. Classic Mason Raymond type player where he can pitch hit on the second line if needed, and might even put up some okay numbers here and there while doing so, but if he’s a regular in your top 6 you’ve got a weak team.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Dube is a classic "middle 6" and tops out in that area.

I’ll take it.

[GioforPM]

Dube may be middle 6, which is also within the top six. But he’s also worn a C wherever he’s played except the AHL.

Also middle 6: Peplinski, when Calgary won.

[868904]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

There are several examples of what Tkachuk has pulled. The Doughty elbow for example is a 10 game suspension today. You don’t need stupid antics to be a championship caliber team. And certainly not from someone you’d consider as captain material.

That was a rookie establishing himself and Doughty sold that so badly. He didn’t miss any time and didn't even get a concussion. It was a dive worthy of a Canuck.

You want to talk about antics, Doughty is no choir boy.