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Old 07-18-2021, 12:46 PM   #121
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Adding Price puts them over the cap. Would have to remove two of the top 6 forwards from the drafted team. Could sign Tuukka Rask or Frederik Andersen as a UFA

What cap? Their cap hit is 0 right now....
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Old 07-18-2021, 12:47 PM   #122
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Here's the team I came up with. Some of the teams were tough to pick from. Team is missing a 1C and a veteran starter but the future in net looks great. Voracek contract is rough but he is a productive player and the other contracts on the team look nice. Giordano maybe a trade chip?
Interesting lineup. I like most of the choices. I think you have to take the center with the greatest scoring potential and then try and build support behind it. Was interested to see Domi selected. He is out at least through half the season, then is a UFA. Not sure why they would take Domi. I like the Tarasenko pick, but it is another gamble. I'd spend that money in the middle and on the blueline. Still wouldn't pick Giordano, and especially wouldn't pick him and make him captain. I mean, if you're whole goal is to get a draft pick out of him at the deadline (likely a second or third, but if he plays great he might get you that late first) why would you make him captain? Doesn't make sense IMO. I find it hard to believe the Kraken would take on that salary along with the risk in hopes of dumping him at the deadline. I would just work a side deal now. Take a third round pick for not taking Giordano and be happy. Also, massive risk not taking a proven goaltender. Sure, free agency is there, but there are a few guys worth rolling the dice on, especially Bishop.
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Ana: Shattenkirk
Arz: Lybushkin
Bos: Kase
Buffalo: McCabe
Car: Doogie
CGY: Gio
Chi: Connolly
CLB: Carlsson
Col: Compher
Det: E .Svechnikov
Dallas: Honka
Edmonton:Klefbom
Florida: Dreidger
L.A: Lemieux
Minn: Khakonen
MTL: Price
Nashville: RyJo
NYI: Koivula
NYR: Gauthier
NJD: White
Ottawa: Dadonov
Pitt: Aston Reese
Phi: Rubstov
STL: Hoffman
SJ: Letunov
TOR: McCann
Van: Virtanen
Wpg: Beaulieu
WSH: Haglin

Leaves 16.4 M in cap to sign Dougie, Hoffman, McCabe and some of the depth picks like Letunov.

That looks like a strong team to me.
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Old 07-18-2021, 12:51 PM   #124
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Scenario: Seattle takes Price but, as usual he is hurt and goes LTIR, projected to return (like this year) at PO time. Contending team who happens to be at the cap trades for him at the TDL and keeps him on LTIR until POs, and suddenly heads into POs with Price. Maybe the Caps, Panthers, Bruins (can you imagine Price as a Bruin playing in Montreal).
Good point, though I think that loop hole will be closed soon.
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Old 07-18-2021, 12:57 PM   #125
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If carey prices 11m signing bonus was already paid by Montreal the total cash owed on his remaining 5 years is 33.3 m . Real cash thats approx 6.7 m / season (all math approximate) Any team that wants to be competitive and has the cap space,or is a budget team , may want to acquire Mr Price.
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Old 07-18-2021, 01:01 PM   #126
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If carey prices 11m signing bonus was already paid by Montreal the total cash owed on his remaining 5 years is 33.3 m . Real cash thats approx 6.7 m / season (all math approximate) Any team that wants to be competitive and has the cap space,or is a budget team , may want to acquire Mr Price.
They said on TV that the $11M bonus for this season would have to be paid by Seattle. It’s paid at the start of the season.
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I selected this team with the primary goal of fielding at least an NHL line up, but with saving as much cap space as possible.
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If carey prices 11m signing bonus was already paid by Montreal the total cash owed on his remaining 5 years is 33.3 m . Real cash thats approx 6.7 m / season (all math approximate) Any team that wants to be competitive and has the cap space,or is a budget team , may want to acquire Mr Price.
Bonus will be paid July 28.

He will cost 13 M real dollars next season.
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Old 07-18-2021, 01:07 PM   #129
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That looks like a strong team to me.
Yeah, looks pretty formidable. Question: Why pick UFAs when you can sign them for nothing in a weeks time? Seattle has the advance window to get a feeling of where players are, so wouldn't it make sense to use that knowledge to instead pick players that they can then turn into other assets? I think the Kraken should go deep on defense and then peddle it for picks and prospects. Use free agency to supplement the team drafted, not select free agents that may not sign with your team and leave you with no benefit.
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Yeah, looks pretty formidable. Question: Why pick UFAs when you can sign them for nothing in a weeks time? Seattle has the advance window to get a feeling of where players are, so wouldn't it make sense to use that knowledge to instead pick players that they can then turn into other assets? I think the Kraken should go deep on defense and then peddle it for picks and prospects. Use free agency to supplement the team drafted, not select free agents that may not sign with your team and leave you with no benefit.
Well, I figure if you're spending to the cap you'll want to ink your UFAs in the expansion draft. Taking extra players lessens the available cap space you have after the draft to sign said FAs. Then if you have any left then you can round out your depth in FA.

I mean the primary UFA I'm after in this mock I made is dougie. Get Him done and then dance around Hoffman and McCabe . Those two FAs are interchangeable on their respective team lists.

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Yeah, looks pretty formidable. Question: Why pick UFAs when you can sign them for nothing in a weeks time? Seattle has the advance window to get a feeling of where players are, so wouldn't it make sense to use that knowledge to instead pick players that they can then turn into other assets? I think the Kraken should go deep on defense and then peddle it for picks and prospects. Use free agency to supplement the team drafted, not select free agents that may not sign with your team and leave you with no benefit.
I think they would do even better going hard core on goaltenders.

Not sure what the limit is through the ED, but there will be a LOT of teams looking for one this summer.
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Old 07-18-2021, 01:18 PM   #132
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Just finished my selections:

Landeskog (COL-8M/8YR) - R. Johansen (NAS) - Voracek (PHI)
Sanford (STL) - Eakin (BUF) - Bailey (NYI)
Ritchie (BOS) - Engvall (TOR) - Vatrano (FLA)
Nieto (SJS) - Bastian (NJD) - Hathaway (WAS)
- Fischer (ARI) -


Giordano (CGY) - Demelo (WPG)
Butcher (NJD) - Zadorov (CHI)
Fleury (ANA) - Pettersson (PIT)
Bean (CAR)

Price (MTL)
Kahkonen (MIN)

Extras:
Gauthier (NYR)
Grundstrom (LAK)
Svechnikov (DET)
Bowey (VAN)
Carlsson (CBJ)
Honka (DAL)
Foote (TBL)
Forsberg (OTT)

Few things... I'd attempt to have a legitimate first line and solid goaltender. from there i'd focus on youth and upcoming players to use as currency. Only UFA id select is Gabe and seeing how the relationship is broken in Colorado good chance he hops over to be captain. although Tarasenko is temping i think Sanford will be similar to Alex Tuch with more ice time. I'd load up on defense and make some deals for picks or prospects. I was also back and forth on Gio vs Kyllington but settled on Gio as they are going to need top end Defenseman. Feels a little weak up the middle, but this lineup would leave room for 1 decent FA i was thinking of a Krejci to fill in at 2C.

Eager to see what others think and open to criticism.
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I like it. Some thought and strategy involved. Well done!
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Old 07-18-2021, 01:38 PM   #134
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Why do many pick RyJo and use the term legitimate first line centre?

He's terrible and the reason why Nashville needs to rebuild.

They would love to get rid of that contract, and the cost to do so would be at least two first round picks, and likely more.
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I can't believe I'm even replying to you, but if you're going to compare the Ladd deal to what Gio is worth you lose all credibility
Ladd is worthless. The price of his cap space was worth 2 2nd round picks. If the Kraken pick up Gio for nothing the Flames can get a couple of 2nd round picks for eating someone else's dead cap space instead of spending it on Hyman (for example).

This is a clear value put on cap space.
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Few things of note for the organization:

- Voracek played really well under Hakstol in Philly
- Johansen is from Vancouver and played junior in Portland
- Zajac, Parise, Brock Nelson, Rocco Grimaldi, Drake Cagigula all played for Hakstoll in North Dakota.
- Cody Eakin was selected once in expansion draft by Vegas from Dallas (mainly because Buffalo has all crap exposed)
- Carey Price being from BC and wife being from Washington state
- Tyler Johnson, TJ Oshie, Derek Ryan all from Seattle area
- Seattle TBirds Allum still in NHL: Barzal, Theodore, Hickey, Bear, Marleau,
- UFA Brandon Sutter played for Francis 2010-2012. Skinner also had 30G season under him. perhaps a fit if bought out
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Has everyone putting Virtanen in their team Seattle picks not googled him lately or been following the news?

0% chance they take him
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I don't think Virtanen is a horrible choice however I think he would fall under the 12/13/14 forward area and his contract at 2.5M is way too much to sit on the bench. may as well take prospects off the teams that are rebuilding. 2 i have pegged for Van would be Bowey or Lind
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Why do many pick RyJo and use the term legitimate first line centre?

He's terrible and the reason why Nashville needs to rebuild.

They would love to get rid of that contract, and the cost to do so would be at least two first round picks, and likely more.
He is the most overpaid player in the league. Gifted that stupid contract after putting up one season of 30 goals and like 15 assists. He's a 3.5-4 mill player at most. Just awful.
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Scenario: Seattle takes Price but, as usual he is hurt and goes LTIR, projected to return (like this year) at PO time. Contending team who happens to be at the cap trades for him at the TDL and keeps him on LTIR until POs, and suddenly heads into POs with Price. Maybe the Caps, Panthers, Bruins (can you imagine Price as a Bruin playing in Montreal).
The problem with that is the next 4 years of cap should Price not get injured.

Nobody should be able to take a chance that they might be tying up 12 % of their goalies.

Price also looked better than he was with the Habs in these Playoffs because they bought into team defense in a 90-10 sort of way. Their best forward had 1 goal and 4 pts in 22 playoff games. That won't happen with a lot if any teams.
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