2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by transplant99

That package is not going to get Eichel.

Originally Posted by transplant99

That package is not going to get Eichel.

Maybe not. The rumour is that the price is coming down. I’m not sure where the price is at now but I think the original ask from Buffalo was an established NHL top six forward, an A-level prospect, and a first round pick. I know most do not consider Zary/Pelletier A-level prospects so adding in Dube could help mitigate the difference between Zary/Pelletier and an A-level prospect.

I think the most aggressive team on eichel will be Minnesota. They have prospects and they now have cap space (for the next two years). The flames’ 1st round pick will be more valuable than Minnesota’s. That could make a package with Zary competitive with Minnesota’s package if their core prospect was Marco Rossi. It depends how deep Minnesota is willing to go into their prospect pool. If they are willing to add multiple top prospects then the flames cannot really compete.


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[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Way to keep the conversation going.

Hyman is a good player. He has more points per game than Mangiapane and Monahan over the last 2 seasons. He plays the right way. Take Landeskog off MacKinnon's wing and their point totals probably aren't that dissimilar (like their playing styles).

Comparing him to Neal just shows that the person has no idea what they are talking about.

I think Scorps reply was valid because your take is a little nuts. He has higher points per game than Monahan or Mangiapane. I wonder where those guys are playing with Matthews and or Marner?

Neal had a decade of production before he signed his deal and was a relatively key player in back to back finals runs.

Hyman has a career high 41pts and is 29. It is a monumental mistake to give him 6-7 years term and pay him as a top line player.

This reminds me of Cody Frasen looking for 5x5 just a product of the Leafs hype machine.

Hyman at most deserves what Toffoli signed which was 4 years around 4.75M. 6x6 is lunacy

[Roof-Daddy]

Signing Landeskog would be so awesome.

IMO it would allow the Flames to deal Tkachuk or Gaudreau for a haul and still have a strong left wing.

Hell, maybe even trade both and eliminate the flight risk, strengthen other weaknesses in the org etc

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think Scorps reply was valid because your take is a little nuts. He has higher points per game than Monahan or Mangiapane. I wonder where those guys are playing with Matthews and or Marner?

Neal had a decade of production before he signed his deal and was a relatively key player in back to back finals runs.

Hyman has a career high 41pts and is 29. It is a monumental mistake to give him 6-7 years term and pay him as a top line player.

This reminds me of Cody Frasen looking for 5x5 just a product of the Leafs hype machine.

Hyman at most deserves what Toffoli signed which was 4 years around 4.75M. 6x6 is lunacy

You're just making the comparison on points. Neal is slow, and is a trigger man. Always was. He brings (brought) little else. Never did.

Hyman is a buzz saw. Very different, and much better player. Also, the career high 41 points completely misses the point. He has 37 in 51 games 2 years ago, then 33 in 43 last year. That's 70 points in 94 games. Mangiapane, by comparison, has 77 points in his last 168 games.

[Moneyhands23]

Very well connected guy in Vancouver https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...hmidt.2833807/

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You're just making the comparison on points. Neal is slow, and is a trigger man. Always was. He brings (brought) little else. Never did.

Hyman is a buzz saw. Very different, and much better player. Also, the career high 41 points completely misses the point. He has 37 in 51 games 2 years ago, then 33 in 43 last year. That's 70 points in 94 games. Mangiapane, by comparison, has 77 points in his last 168 games.

There are injury concerns in the last couple of years. There is also the fact he plays with truly elite superstars which Calgary does not have. A guy who has t been able to play full seasons and approaching 30 is not worth what is being rumored.

I really hope Treliving is driving that price up for Holland

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Very well connected guy in Vancouver https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...hmidt.2833807/

Remember when Van fans were thrilled to get away from Tanev's contract and then even more thrilled to get Schmidt for $6M?

I remember.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Holy smokes is Landeskog ever under valued on this board.

Since he came into the NHL...31 players have out produced him in the entire league.

Only 5 guys at his position have been better in the points department.

He is a great 2 way guy and absolutely a leader of men. As an example he was an assistant captain of the Swedish Olympic team at age 22. A team that included Zetterburg, Karlsson, OEL, Backstrom, Steen, the Sedins etc.

He isnt a guy this club can really use unless JG or MT are traded though as once again the club would be LW heavy on salary.

And if Gio goes, I don’t think there’s anyone else on our team that would be more captain material than Landeskog.

We need a culture change, and Landeskog would mesh well with Sutter imo.

Don’t offer 7 years (because he will be 29 in November), but I don’t think he says no right away to 7.25-7.5m x 6 years.

With the whole Tkachuk-staying-in-Calgary always in murky water, at least we have insurance in case he doesn’t.

He can also take draws for Lindholm/Monahan if need be.

[Barca]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1415791017165393920

[Roof-Daddy]

I didn't realize Schwartz was a UFA.

[Vinny01]

What would people think about the James Neal contract for Taylor Hall?

5.75x5.

Rumor is the Bruins and he are agreeing on 5.5 but Hall wants more term than the Bruins are willing to go

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

That package is not going to get Eichel.

You have no idea along with the rest of us what the price for Eichel will be. I think people will be surprised when the deal is made who think he is going to fetch a monster return. I think the offer you just poo pooed is pretty close.

[sureLoss]

According to Strickland the Avs have made the following offers to Landeskog and were not accepted.

4yr x $6.5mil
5yr x $7mil
8yr x $5.125mil

[MrMike]

Yeah if he’s not taking a 5 x 7m to stay with Colorado he’s going to go cash in.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Could be a NMC/NTC issue.

[Reggie Dunlop]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1415804895177986052

Any interest in Danault?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

https://twitter.com/user/status/1415804895177986052

Any interest in Danault?

Not while the Flames have Backlund

[Roof-Daddy]

Signing guys like Landeskog and Hyman make the team better immediately IMO, problem is those contracts are more than likely poison pills the last few years.

They are also both Sutter type players too, 200 foot players who give it their all.

If you win a Cup you aren't going to care as much if those contract hurt you in 2026-2028 either. If you don't win a Cup though, you become the Sharks I guess.

Maybe silly season is getting the better of me, but if the Flames aren't going to tear it down (which they aren't) maybe you go hard for those two, and if you get them spend the rest of the summer trying to move Tkachuk and maybe even Johnny too if he won't sign an extension.

Tkachuk for Tarasenko and Kyrou or Thomas

Or you could keep Chucky and have him play RW I guess.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tarasenko
Landeskog - Lindholm - Hyman
Mangiapane - Backlund - Kyrou
M. Lucic - D. Dube - Ritchie

Hanifin - Tanev
Edler - Andersson
Valimaki - Mackey

Markstrom
Backup


D's a little scary, but that's really good forward group.

Try to get a cheap vet to help with the overall youth of the D, someone like Edler should come fairly cheap. Other names like McCabe, Oleksiak, Vatanen, Benn etc.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You’re literally looking at pages of speculation and discussion of known players on the move.

Do I need to be an ass and post dictionary definitions for you?

I got you covered.

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"I'll look up ‘love’ in the dictionary"


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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tarasenko
Landeskog - Lindholm - Hyman
Mangiapane - Backlund - Kyrou
M. Lucic - D. Dube - Ritchie

Hanifin - Tanev
Edler - Andersson
Valimaki - Mackey

Markstrom
Backup

I like it, my only gripe would be lack of opportunity for some youth barring injury. I'd rather just skip the Hyman signing if we're adding Landeskog, Tarasenko and Kyrou/Thomas and add on D (Oleksiak?) and give the rookies a spot to fight for.