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				I know they had to do it, but Ritchie is terrible. 
			
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Jujhar Khaira thinks so too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:17 PM
			
			
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			I think everyone expected this deal to be done. As for $900k, I don't think it makes any difference from a cap stand point. I liked Ritchie's effort, checking, and toughness.  
 
 
 
I would like him to improve in the defensive zone. Especially at getting the puck out of the zone, and not icing the puck as much. I also would like him to be more aware of who his man is when the Flames are collapsing in front of their own net. That said, for $900k and likely 4th line minutes he is a good add.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:17 PM
			
			
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				Here come all the posts not understanding the Flames still had to sign 1 more forward to fit the expansion draft requirements 
 
I liked what Ritchie brought. I'm happy with him as a 12th/13th forward 
			
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As a 12th/13th is fine. It's just we know how Darryl likes to deploy a forward like him.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:18 PM
			
			
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			Meh, I like him. Remember that fight?  
 
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			07-15-2021, 03:19 PM
			
			
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				As a 12th/13th is fine. It's just we know how Darryl likes to deploy a forward like him. 
			
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This is my main reservation as well.
 
It seems like Darryl likes Ritchie a little too much.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:21 PM
			
			
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				This is my main reservation as well. 
 
It seems like Darryl likes Ritchie a little too much. 
			
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Reminds me of the movie "Moneyball" when Phillip Seymore Hoffman would just keep playing who he wanted at first base until Pitt had to trade him away.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:22 PM
			
			
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			He's fine depth at under a million
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:24 PM
			
			
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				I know they had to do it, but Ritchie is terrible. 
			
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Yeah we should have re-signed Nordstrom or Simon instead   
Knocking Khaira into the nether-realm completely justifies this contract. 20 point pace, physicality and an expansion draft requirement for 900k is fine by me.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:27 PM
			
			
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				Meh, I like him. Remember that fight? 
  
			
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Khaira doesn't.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:27 PM
			
			
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				Yeah we should have re-signed Nordstrom or Simon instead    
			
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Or Ryan or Leivo.
 
The Flames already have guys who can fight. Ritchie is one of the least effective players in the league and Sutter isn't going to be able to resist playing him. It's going to be another Matt Bartkowski situation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2021, 03:29 PM
			
			
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				I know they had to do it, but Ritchie is terrible. 
			
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You’d rather Leivo or Simon?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:29 PM
			
			
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			Good...knows his role and does it well. This club needs size, he helps in that department.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:30 PM
			
			
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				You’d rather Leivo or Simon? 
			
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Not Simon, but both Leivo and Ryan are pretty good.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2021, 03:32 PM
			
			
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				Not Simon, but both Leivo and Ryan are pretty good. 
			
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Ryan at 900k  would kind of suggest that he was waaaay overpaid last season
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:32 PM
			
			
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			Low risk. 
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			07-15-2021, 03:33 PM
			
			
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			He adds some toughness and plays a position the team is really shallow in.  I also loved his work in Silicon Valley.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2021, 03:34 PM
			
			
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				Ryan at 900k  would kind of suggest that he was waaaay overpaid last season 
			
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You wouldn't get Ryan at 900k. More like 1.5m.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2021, 03:35 PM
			
			
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				Not Simon, but both Leivo and Ryan are pretty good. 
			
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You’re not getting Ryan on a 1 year $900k deal so that shouldn’t be considered a comparable. 
 
Leivo and “pretty good” don’t go anywhere near each other in my world.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:35 PM
			
			
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			Ritchie is terrible if you see a lot of Ritchie with a lot of responsibility. I'm sure Sutter will use him properly.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2021, 03:36 PM
			
			
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				Or Ryan or Leivo. 
 
The Flames already have guys who can fight. Ritchie is one of the least effective players in the league and Sutter isn't going to be able to resist playing him. It's going to be another Matt Bartkowski situation. 
			
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Tkachuk, Lucic  and maybe Tanev and perhaps Stone if he is signed? Maybe  Dube and Mangiapane would take a beating for the team.
 
Hard for Sutter to start an instigator line-up like Hartley did against Vancouver.
 
I can see why the Flames were telling Tkachuk not to start anything.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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