Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
No, they really don't. Here are the facts behind the Flames draft success outside of the first round over the past 13 years, compared to every other team in the league. To eliminate a bunch if noise and who who was picking players that were more than a call-up for a game or two, the low-water mark is 40 games played.
Since 2008 teams have had the following success in finding players who played a total of more than 40 NHL games. This is including picks up to, and including the 2020 draft, a condition (fairly or unfairly) applied to all teams. So here the success of each team.
Anaheim - 72 picks, 20 players with more than 40 games (.277 batting average)
2nd round picks (17) - Eric O'Dell, Justin Schultz, Devante Smith-Pelly, John Gibson, William Karlsson, Marcus Pettersson, Brandon Montour, Maxim Comtois
3rd round picks (14) - Brandon MacMillan, Joseph Camarossa, Andy Welinski, Fredrick Andersen, Josh Mahura
4th round picks (10) - Sami Vatanen
5th round picks (13) - Chris Wagner, Tim Heed, Troy Terry
6th round picks (11) - Josh Manson
7th round picks (7) - Jaycob Megna, Ondej Kase
Boston - 65 picks, 14 players with more than 40 games (.215 batting average)
2nd round picks (13) - Ryan Lindgren, Brandon Carlo, Jeremy Lauzon, Ryan Donato, Ryan Spooner
3rd round picks (9) - Peter Cerliak, Matt Grzelcyk, Michael Hutchinson
4th round picks (9) - Danton Heinen, Craig Cunningham
5th round picks (10) - Anders Bjork, Seth Griffith
6th round picks (12) - Matt Benning
7th round picks (12) - Zach Trotman
Buffalo - 77 picks, 14 players with more than 40 games (.181 batting average)
2nd round picks (14) - Rasmus Asplund, Brendan Guhle, Brendan Lemieux, JT Compher, Justin Bailey, Jake McCabe, Luke Adam
3rd round picks (13) - Nick Baptiste, Brayden McNabb
4th round picks (11) - Marcus Foligno
5th round picks (15) - Cal Petersen
6th round picks (10) - Brandon Hagel, Linus Ulmark
7th round picks (14) - Victor Olofsson
Calgary - 69 picks, 12 players with more than 40 games (.173 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Dillion Dube, Rasmus Anderson, Oliver Kylington, Markus Granlund
3rd round picks (11) - Adam Fox, Lance Bouma
4th round picks (14) - Brett Kulak, Johnny Gaudreau, TJ Brodie
5th round picks (9) - Micheal Ferland
6th round picks (12) - Andrew Mangiapane, Laurent Brossoit
7th round picks (13) - None
Carolina - 83 picks, 17 players with more than 40 games (.204 batting average)
2nd round picks (17) - Eetu Luostarinen, Janne Kuokkanen, Sebastian Aho, Phil Di Giuseppe, Brock McGinn, Victor Rask, Justin Faulk, Brian Dumoulin, Zac Dalpe
3rd round picks (16) - Warren Foegele, Brett Pesce
4th round picks (16) - Nicolas Roy, Lucas Wallmark, Jaccob Slavin, Michal Jordan
5th round picks (8) - None
6th round picks (14) - None
7th round picks (12) - Steven Lorentz, Frederik Andersen
Chicago - 85 picks, 17 players with more than 40 games (.200 batting average)
2nd round picks (16) - Carl Dahlstrom, Adam Clendening, Brandon Saad, Justin Holl, Stephen Johns, Brandon Pirri
3rd round picks (17) - John Hayden, Klas Dahlbeck, Joakim Nordstrom
4th round picks (15) - Philipp Kurashev, Tyler Motte, Byron Froese
5th round picks (14) - Andrew Shaw, Marcus Kruger
6th round picks (17) - Dylan Sikura, Vinny Hinostroza, Ben Smith
7th round picks (16) - None
Colorado - 74 picks, 10 players with more than 40 games (.135 batting average)
2nd round picks (12) - Chris Bigras, Calvin Pickard, Ryan O'Reilly, Stefan Elliott
3rd round picks (12) - Michael Bournival, Tyson Barrie
4th round picks (12) - None
5th round picks (14) - Anton Lindholm, Will Butcher, Mark Olver
6th round picks (13) - Joseph Blandisi
7th round picks (12) - None
Columbus - 72 picks, 19 players with more than 40 games (.263 batting average)
2nd round picks (13) - Alexandre Texier, Kevin Stenlund, Boone Jenner, Cody Goloubef
3rd round picks (10) - Keegan Kolesar, Elvis Merzlikins, Oliver Bjorkstrand, Joonas Korpisalo
4th round picks (13) - Emil Bemstrom, Josh Anderson, Mike Reilly, David Savard
5th round picks (11) - Matt Calvert
6th round picks (13) - Vladislav Gavrikov, Lukas Sedlak, Dalton Prout, Cam Atkinson
7th round picks (12) - Markus Nutivaara, Anton Forsberg
Dallas - 69 picks, 16 players with more than 40 games (.231 batting average)
2nd round picks (13) - Jason Robertson, Roope Hintz, Remi Elie, Devin Shore, Brett Ritchie, Patrik Nemeth, Alex Chiasson
3rd round picks (8) - Esa Lindell, Reilly Smith
4th round picks (13) - Nick Paul, Gemel Smith
5th round picks (16) - John Klingberg, Tomas Vincour, Philip Larsen
6th round picks (12) - Curtis McKenzie
7th round picks (7) - Jyrki Jokipakka
Detroit - 95 picks, 19 players with more than 40 games (.200 batting average) Detoit has had 33 picks in the past three drafts and no players eligible yet.
2nd round picks (19) - Filip Hronek, Tyler Bertuzzi, Martin Frk, Tomas Jurco, Xavier Ouellet, Ryan Sproul, Calle Jarnkrok, Landon Ferraro, Tomas Tatar
3rd round picks (19) - Mattias Janmark-Nylen, Alan Quine, Andrej Nestrasil
4th round picks (13) - Christoffer Ehn, Andreas Athanasiou, Teemu Pulkkinen, Gustav Nyquist
5th round picks (13) - Petr Mrazek, Nick Jensen
6th round picks (15) -
7th round picks (16) - Alexey Marchenko
Edmonton - 79 picks, 12 players with more than 40 games (.151 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Tyler Pitlick, Martin Marincin, Anton Lander
3rd round picks (15) - Anton Slepyshev, Jujhar Khaira
4th round picks (16) - Caleb Jones, Erik Gustafsson, Tobias Rieder
5th round picks (13) - Ethan Bear
6th round picks (12) - John Marino, Brandon Davidson, Teemu Hartikainen
7th round picks (13) -
Florida - 86 picks, 22 players with more than 40 games (.255 batting average)
2nd round picks (15) - Jayce Hawryluk, Ian McCoshen, Rocco Grimaldi, Alexander Petrovic, Connor Brickley, Jacob Markstrom, Colby Robak
3rd round picks (18) - Juho Lammikko, Vincent Trocheck, Logan Shaw, Kyle Rau, Drew Shore
4th round picks (16) - Riley Stillman, Denis Malgin, Joonas Donskoi, Garrett Wilson
5th round picks (11) - Zach Hyman, Corban Knight
6th round picks (14) - Josh Brown
7th round picks (12) - MacKenzie Weegar, Iiro Pakarinen, Matt Bartkowski
LA Kings - 84 picks, 25 players with more than 40 games (.297 batting average)
2nd round picks (15) - Jaret Anderson-Dolan, Erik Cernak, Valentin Zykov, Tyler Toffoli, Kyle Clifford, Vyacheslav Voynov
3rd round picks (14) - Mike Amadio, Andy Andreoff, Nick Shore, Jordan Weal, Nicolas Deslauriers, Andrew Campbell
4th round picks (15) - Michael Anderson, Austin Wagner, Nikolay Prokhorkin, Linden Vey
5th round picks (15) - Jonny Brodzinski, Colin Miller, Kevin Gravel, Andrei Loktionov
6th round picks (12) - Paul Ladue
7th round picks (13) - Matt Roy, Dominik Kubalik, Jordan Nolan, Nic Dowd
Minnesota - 72 picks, 12 players with more than 40 games (.166 batting average)
2nd round picks (12) - Jordan Greenway, Gustav Olofsson, Johan Larsson, Jason Zucker, Marco Scandella
3rd round picks (10) - Kurtis Gabriel
4th round picks (10) - None
5th round picks (11) - Kirill Kaprizov, Carson Soucy, Nick Seeler
6th round picks (14) - Darcy Kuemper
7th round picks (15) - Tyler Graovac, Erik Haula
Montreal - 81 picks, 10 players with more than 40 games (.123 batting average)
2nd round picks (14) - Alexander Romanov, Jacob De La Rose, Artturi Lehkonen
3rd round picks (15) - Cale Fleury, Sven Andrighetto
4th round picks (15) - Victor Mete
5th round picks (16) - Charles Hudon, Brendan Gallagher, Gabriel Dumont
6th round picks (9) -
7th round picks (12) - Jake Evans
Nashville - 85 picks, 18 players with more than 40 games (.211 batting average)
2nd round picks (14) - Samuel Girard, Yakov Trenin, Vladislav Kamenev, Viktor Arvidsson, Pontus Aberg, Colton Sissons, Miikka Salomaki, Roman Josi
3rd round picks (12) - Jimmy Vesey, Brendan Leipsic, Taylor Beck, Michael Latta
4th round picks (17) - Juuse Saros, Craig Smith, Mattias Ekholm
5th round picks (13) - Gabriel Bourque
6th round picks (14) - Anthony Bitetto
7th round picks (15) - Anders Lindback
New Jersey - 82 picks, 17 players with more than 40 games (.207 batting average)
2nd round picks (11) - Jesper Boqvist, Nathan Bastian, Mackenzie Blackwood, Damon Severson, Eric Gelinas, Patrice Cormier
3rd round picks (16) - Joey Anderson, Blake Coleman, Scott Wedgewood, Adam Henrique
4th round picks (15) - Miles Wood, Reid Boucher, Seth Helgeson
5th round picks (14) - Yegor Sharangovich, Alexander Kerfoot
6th round picks (14) - Jesper Bratt, Brett Seney
7th round picks (12) - None
NY Islanders - 74 picks, 15 players with more than 40 games (.200 batting average)
2nd round picks (11) - Scott Mayfield, Mikko Koskinen, Aaron Ness, Travis Hamonic
3rd round picks (15) - Adam Pelech, Anders Nilsson
4th round picks (13) - Devon Toews, Casey Cizikas, Matt Donovan, David Ullstrom
5th round picks (13) - Kevin Poulin, Matt Martin
6th round picks (11) - Alan Quine, Anders Lee, Jared Spurgeon
7th round picks (11) -
NY Rangers - 73 picks, 9 players with more than 40 games (.123 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Cristoval "Boo" Nieves, Derek Stepan
3rd round picks (16) - Pavel Buchnevich, Anthony Duclair
4th round picks (13) - Igor Shesterkin, Ryan Graves, Dale Weise
5th round picks (15) - Roman Horak
6th round picks (11) - Jesper Fast
7th round picks (8) -
Ottawa Senators - 72 picks, 22 players with more than 40 games (.305 batting average)
2nd round picks (15) - Filip Chlapik, Shane Prince, Jakob Silfverberg, Robin Lehner, Patrick Wiercioch
3rd round picks (7) - Marcus Hogberg, Zack Smith
4th round picks (15) - Drake Batherson, Christian Wolanin, Ben Harpur, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Marcus Sorensen, Chris Wideman, Derek Grant
5th round picks (11) - Max Lajoie, Christian Jaros, Fredrik Claesson, Mike Hoffman, Mark Borowiecki
6th round picks (12) - Max McCormick, Mark Stone
7th round picks (13) - Ryan Dzingel
Philadelphia - 81 picks, 11 players with more than 40 games (.135 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Carter Hart, Nicolas Aube-Kubel, Robert Hagg
3rd round picks (14) - Shayne Gostisbehere, Nick Cousins, Michael Chaput, Marc-Andre Bourdon
4th round picks (16) - Taylor Leier, Tye McGinn
5th round picks (13) - Oskar Lindblom
6th round picks (15) - Zac Rinaldo
7th round picks (13) -
Phoenix - 83 picks, 10 players with more than 40 games (.120 batting average)
2nd round picks (12) - Christian Fischer, Christian Dvorak, Jordan Martinook, Oscar Lindberg
3rd round picks (18) - Adin Hill, Michael Stone
4th round picks (11) - Jordan Szwarz
5th round picks (12) - Conor Garland, Connor Clifton, Louis Domingue
6th round picks (11) -
7th round picks (14) -
Pittsburgh - 65 picks, 14 players with more than 40 games (.215 batting average)
2nd round picks (11) - Daniel Sprong, Tristan Jarry, Teddy Blueger, Scott Harrington
3rd round picks (9) - Jake Guentzel, Oskar Sundqvist, Matt Murray, Bryan Rust
4th round picks (9) - Sam Lafferty, Tom Kuhnhackl
5th round picks (14) - Dominik Simon, Kenny Agostino
6th round picks (14) - Josh Archibald
7th round picks (8) - Scott Wilson
San Jose - 78 picks, 15 players with more than 40 games (.192 batting average)
2nd round picks (14) - Mario Ferraro, Dylan Gambrell, Chris Tierney
3rd round picks (8) - None
4th round picks (11) - Noah Gregor
5th round picks (13) - Rudolfs Balcers, Sean Kuraly, Freddie Hamilton, Philip Varone
6th round picks (14) - John Leonard, Kevin Labanc, Dylan DeMelo, Tommy Wingels
7th round picks (18) - Joakim Ryan, Colin Blackwell, Jason Demers
St. Louis - 80 picks, 16 players with more than 40 games (.200 batting average)
2nd round picks (17) - Jordan Kyrou, Vince Dunn, Ivan Barbashev, William Carrier, Ty Rattie, Dmitrij Jaskin, Joel Edmundson, Jake Allen
3rd round picks (12) - Mackenzie MacEachern, Colton Parayko, Jordan Binnington, Jori Lehtera
4th round picks (14) - Jani Hakanpaa, David Warsofsky
5th round picks (13) - None
6th round picks (12) - Sammy Blais, Petteri Lindbohm
7th round picks (12) - None
Tampa - 86 picks, 20 players with more than 40 games (.232 batting average)
2nd round picks (16) - Alexander Volkov, Libor Hajek, Mitchell Stephens, Adam Erne, Nikita Kucherov, Richard Panik
3rd round picks (14) - Anthony Cirelli, Brayden Point, Nikita Nesterov, Radko Gudas
4th round picks (12) - Mathieu Joseph, Cedric Paquette, James Wright
5th round picks (9) - Dustin Tokarski
6th round picks (17) - Jake Dotchin, Mark Barberio, Luke Witkowski
7th round picks (18) - Nikita Gusev, Matthew Peca, Ondrej Palat
Toronto - 90 picks, 14 players with more than 40 games (.155 batting average)
2nd round picks (13) - Carl Grundstrom, Travis Dermott, Jimmy Hayes
3rd round picks (14) - Carter Verhaeghe, Joshua Leivo, Greg McKegg
4th round picks (14) - Petter Granberg
5th round picks (16) - Dmytro Timashov, Dominic Toninato, Connor Brown, Sam Carrick, Greg Pateryn
6th round picks (16) -
7th round picks (17) - Pierre Engvall, Andreas Johnsson
Vancouver - 68 picks, 8 players with more than 40 games (.117 batting average)
2nd round picks (8) - Nils Hoglander, Thatcher Demko
3rd round picks (10) - Nikita Tryamkin, Kevin Connauton
4th round picks (10) - None
5th round picks (13) - Adam Gaudette, Gustav Forsling, Ben Hutton, Frankie Corrado
6th round picks (12) - None
7th round picks (15) - None
Washington - 69 picks, 11 players with more than 40 games (.159 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Jonas Siegenthaler, Madison Bowey, Zach Sanford, Dmitri Orlov
3rd round picks (9) - Chandler Stephenson, Cody Eakin
4th round picks (16) - Philipp Grubauer, Braden Holtby
5th round picks (8) - Connor Carrick
6th round picks (14) - Travis Boyd
7th round picks (12) - Christian Djoos
Winnipeg/Atlanta - 76 picks, 11 players with more than 40 games (.144 batting average)
2nd round picks (10) - Jansen Harkins, Nicolas Petan, Jeremy Morin
3rd round picks (12) - Adam Lowry
4th round picks (13) - Andrew Copp, Ben Chiarot
5th round picks (15) - Tucker Poolman, Connor Hellebuyck
6th round picks (13) - Mason Appleton
7th round picks (13) - Sami Niku, Zach Redmond
While the Flames draft record is second amongst Canadian teams, they rank 20th out of 30 teams (Vegas is not included for obvious reasons). Not great. Not even average. A very long way away from the best (OTT @ .305) and being amongst the best in the game.
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