Seattle Expansion Draft Speculation

[CASe333]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

It's a meaningless question. Show me the results of those teams playing games against each other (not just the four that happened to make the third round of the playoffs), and I'll tell you which ones were better or worse.

There are no data to justify ANY conclusion. That's why I am not drawing any conclusion. Why the hell are you?

Go ahead, show me what makes the North Division the worst. So far, all you've got is ‘Because I say so’. I call BS.

Although I agree that the North division was probably the worst division last year I also understand your point there was no way to quantify or prove that narrative. End of day the only recent objective data we can draw on is that Montreal beat Las Vegas in the Conference Finals.

[Macman]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Gotta love that Kraken page on CapFriendly...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/kraken

Spoiler!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That's not what I said at all.

The 7 Canadian teams had a winning percentage of .542 in 2019-20, playing in their regular divisions. In other words, collectively they were dead average in that year. They gained no extra benefit by not having to play any U.S. teams. Therefore, the North Division was close enough to average that the difference amounts to statistical noise.



I am suggesting the division was not weak based on those teams' winning percentage in their regular divisions in 2019-20.

Are we all clear now?

Oh, your point was that the Canadian teams were average 2 years ago? Okay carry on. I thought we were talking about last year.

[stang]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

I am wondering who Seattle will pick from the Oilers? Of course the Oilers want them to pick Neal or Kassian or Koskinen for cap relief. But I really hope that Seattle will pick some scrub making league minimum like a Devin Shaw or Stalock just to keep the Oils in cap jail...

Oilers aren’t in Cap jail. Stalock or shore or Russell would be perfect to be taken.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by stang

Oilers aren’t in Cap jail. Stalock or shore or Russell would be perfect to be taken.

You keep telling yourself that, lol.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Can Seattle decline an Oilers selection?

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Can Seattle decline an Oilers selection?

Just pick an UFA. Pick Barrie ---> sign ---> trade ---> profit!!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by stang

Oilers aren’t in Cap jail. Stalock or shore or Russell would be perfect to be taken.

21.2M in pure crap on the roster (Keith, Kassian, Neal, Kostkinen, Sekera/Lucic dead cap). Over 1/4 of the cap tied up in crap that will likely be a backup goalie, third pair D and bottom 6 winger. Neal will be a healthy scratch type.

Oilers likely buyout 2 of those players and keep the dead cap going.

If they buyout Neal+Kostkinen that will be $5.6M in pure dead cap for the next 2 years (Sekera and Lucic dead money also factored in)

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You keep telling yourself that, lol.

They have some cap room but a whole lot of holes on that roster to fill. Also they, like the Flames, have no contributors on ELC's they can count on.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

They have some cap room but a whole lot of holes on that roster to fill. Also they, like the Flames, have no contributors on ELC's they can count on.

Fully expect Benson and McLeod to be on the team if they don’t get taken, and JP making just over 1 mil is like an elc

Edit: Also Bouchard will be on the 3rd pair, and Holloway will be pushing at some point this year.

[powderjunkie]

Expose Gio

If he's taken (and I still think it's a big IF), then sign someone to a big 1 yr deal like BUF did for Hall, even if it's above FMV.

Suter 1x5M
Edler 1x4M
Krejci 1x6M (or Getzlaf, though he's unlikely)

Then keep or trade at TDL. Easy peesy.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Expose Gio

If he's taken (and I still think it's a big IF), then sign someone to a big 1 yr deal like BUF did for Hall, even if it's above FMV.

Suter 1x5M
Edler 1x4M
Krejci 1x6M (or Getzlaf, though he's unlikely)

Then keep or trade at TDL. Easy peesy.

Are we trying to run an old folks home?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Are we trying to run an old folks home?

I think he is recommending replacing Gio with ONE of those old boys who are all younger than Gio

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

So far, Milan Lucic, Erik Johnson, and Jeff Skinner have agreed to waive their NMCs for the expansion draft.

Friday is the deadline for players to waive. Yesterday was the deadline for teams to ask players to waive.

Can add Ben Bishop to that list:
https://t.co/0QYQqxIVvd

[lazypucker]

When is the deadline for teams to submit the protection list? And when can the public see them?

And I guess when will be the expansion draft and we find out who Seattle takes?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

When is the deadline for teams to submit the protection list? And when can the public see them?

And I guess when will be the expansion draft and we find out who Seattle takes?

July 17: By 5 p.m., teams must submit protection lists for the Expansion Draft to the league.

July 18: The NHL must approve and distribute the protection lists to all NHL teams by 10 a.m. They will likely be made public at about that time.

July 21: Seattle must submit their Expansion Draft choices to the NHL by 10 a.m.

[getbak]

With the Ritchie signing, the Flames list almost-certainly will look like this...

PROTECTED:

1. Tkachuk
2. Gaudreau
3. Monahan
4. Backlund
5. Lindholm
6. Mangiapane
7. Dube

1. Hanifin
2. Andersson
3. Tanev

1. Markstrom (NMC)

EXPOSED VETERANS AS REQUIRED:

1. Lucic (NMC - Waived)
2. Ritchie

1. Giordano

1. Parsons

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by getbak

With the Ritchie signing, the Flames list almost-certainly will look like this...

PROTECTED:

1. Tkachuk
2. Gaudreau
3. Monahan
4. Backlund
5. Lindholm
6. Mangiapane
7. Dube

1. Hanifin
2. Andersson
3. Tanev

1. Markstrom (NMC)

EXPOSED VETERANS AS REQUIRED:

1. Lucic (NMC - Waived)
2. Ritchie

1. Giordano

1. Parsons

I found it weird that Craig Button had Gawdin protected over Backlund. Made no sense to me unless it is a move to keep Seattle away from Gio. If that is the case let’s make a deal with a team who is looking to move a forward instead of protecting Glen Gawdin

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I found it weird that Craig Button had Gawdin protected over Backlund. Made no sense to me unless it is a move to keep Seattle away from Gio. If that is the case let’s make a deal with a team who is looking to move a forward instead of protecting Glen Gawdin

I believe this is why Ritchie was just signed. To give the Flames enough NHL vet forwards to expose so they can now protect Backlund.

[Moneyhands23]

https://flamesnation.ca/2021/07/15/s...-in-expansion/