LeBrun: Flames are looking at every single scenario to try and keep Giordano

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Actually Jiri I wanted him fired for many of his transgressions over his 7 year tenure with the team. All this does is reinforce my position.

that's fine. There are valid reason to want him fired.
I don't view things that he hasn't done to be one of them.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What did the Leafs pay for Foligno?

In a crappy 2021 draft? Did you just casually ignore the part where the strength of players available dictates the TDL prices?

What did Tomas Vanek get? What did Jarome Iginla get? What did Paul Gaustad get? What did Eric Staal get?

Seriously weak drive-by to refute the point. This (rhetorical) question has a hundred answers. But you can certainly see that aging players on expiring contracts do not generally return good picks in a strong draft.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Habs need a defenseman now that Weber is going to LTIR.

They have 3 they want to protect already even without Weber

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Actually Jiri I wanted him fired for many of his transgressions over his 7 year tenure with the team. All this does is reinforce my position.

Over 50% of poll respondents think he should be fired, another 25% are on the fence

Good on the Seattle GM. He has learned from Vegas. The price should be high.

I would not be terribly surprised if this article is a first step paving the way for the Flames trying to save face while losing Gio. Pretty lame

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I’ve been calling for firing Treliving since 2012. I’m OG fire Tre.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Over 50% of poll respondents think he should be fired, another 25% are on the fence

Ok. Don't really care.
But again - wanting him fired is valid. I'm not saying it isn't.
I just find it funny when people use things that haven't happened as more ammunition to fire him.
I guess we can look forward to an entire season of this though since he isn't being fired.

[FlamesAddiction]

I would love to see Giordano finish off his career with the Flames, but I wouldn't give anything to protect him. If you lose him, that is $6 million in cap to sign someone else.

He clearly declined last season and given his age, a further decline next season is in the cards. It doesn't matter if he is still the best defenseman on the team. That may be true, but also part of the problem. Unless of course, the goal is to tank, which I am also fine with.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Let’s see if we can get Lavoie to report that Gio may have a really messed up foot, too, and may miss the next season

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

In a crappy 2021 draft? Did you just casually ignore the part where the strength of players available dictates the TDL prices?

What did Tomas Vanek get? What did Jarome Iginla get? What did Paul Gaustad get? What did Eric Staal get?

Seriously weak drive-by to refute the point. This (rhetorical) question has a hundred answers. But you can certainly see that aging players on expiring contracts do not generally return good picks in a strong draft.

LOL. You want more? What did Stastny get? What did Skei get? What did Pageau get? Montour?

Iginla, BTW, got a first and two players. Gaustad got a first. Not sure what your point is.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Ok. Don't really care.
But again - wanting him fired is valid. I'm not saying it isn't.
I just find it funny when people use things that haven't happened as more ammunition to fire him.
I guess we can look forward to an entire season of this though since he isn't being fired.

Yes, I expect so. I will try not to, but admit I am more disappointed about that than correct prediction (should be, won’t be) than I thought I would be.

[cannon7]

Losing Gio frees up $6.75M in cap space. Treliving's disastrous UFA history aside, what if that meant:

Out: Giordano
In: Martinez, Oleksiak

Or take your pick of UFA d-men that will be available. Wouldn't mind seeing another Suter on the blueline...

[Jimdon]

All the talk about the Flames losing their best defenseman if Gio goes seems like a bit of revisionist history here. The first half of the season Tanev and Hanifin were easily the teams best defenseman and the popular narrative was that Gios poor play was a big reason the team was struggling. He picked it up in the second half, too little too late.

Would the Flames be a factor to winning the cup this year with Gio as opposed to without him? No.
The team being better or worse with or without him shouldn't be worth spending any assets on him if they're still not good enough either way

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Not sure that is possible considering they have won the Stanley Cup.

Ah yes. Let's such sit back and enjoy the good old days, when this franchise was worthy of excitement. Just a mere 30 years ago...

Feels oilerish to bask in the success from decades ago.

The flames are a dumb dumb franchise for decades now. No real interest in bucking that trend either.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jimdon

All the talk about the Flames losing their best defenseman if Gio goes seems like a bit of revisionist history here. The first half of the season Tanev and Hanifin were easily the teams best defenseman and the popular narrative was that Gios poor play was a big reason the team was struggling. He picked it up in the second half, too little too late.

Would the Flames be a factor to winning the cup this year with Gio as opposed to without him? No.
The team being better or worse with or without him shouldn't be worth spending any assets on him if they're still not good enough either way

Yeah, I don’t think Gio was their best Dman at any point. He was their best offensive Dman over the season, which is an issue in more than one respect.

[Roof-Daddy]

Hopefully this is just media fluff so when they leave him unprotected they can say "we looked at every option, there was nothing we could do and had to expose him".

[GirlySports]

I think it's just damage control, kind of like how the Blue Jays say they're in for every free agent but not really. It's all to lessen the blow when Gio is not protected and possibly taken by Seattle. "We tried everything but couldn't make it work."

[ComixZone]

…I thought we had this sorted?

Buy him out. Re-sign him. Bada bing!

[Jiri Hrdina]

In theory only....
Could a team trade a player they don't want to lose, with say a sweetener (a 3rd), to a team that has an available protection spot.
And then after that team trades him back while profiting the 3rd.

Probably hard to find a time that has that type of flexibility but just curious if theoretically that would be allowed?

[Strange Brew]

Of all the things mentioned here that might happen, the Flames trading Gio at the deadline is one of the least likely IMO.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

In theory only....
Could a team trade a player they don't want to lose, with say a sweetener (a 3rd), to a team that has an available protection spot.
And then after that team trades him back while profiting the 3rd.

Probably hard to find a time that has that type of flexibility but just curious if theoretically that would be allowed?

I am sure that protection slots can not be traded.

And wouldn’t the league have issue with a trade that has a secret condition attached to it that is not specified in the trade itself? You’re essentially talking about loaning a player which I assume you can’t do. Would be handy if you ever needed someone to beat a rival.