07-13-2021, 03:10 PM
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#421
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by old-fart
It is quite possible you need to also note
- Larsson
- Klefbom (although he wasn't there last season either)
That means the Oilers D is looking like:
Nurse - Bear
Keith - Boberg
Bouchard - Russell
(and I have no clue who would be their 7/8 slots for the inevitable injuries)
Good lord, that is horribad. Add in a 65 year old Smith (if they re-sign him) and Kostinem in net along with a forward group that is allergic to their own zone and... gah. Bubble team at best.
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Take away Barrie and Larsson and add a Keith who puts up a continuation of his most recent season in a top 3/4 role, and you're looking at a lottery team defence.
They would need Smith to match or exceed his career high just to flirt with playoffs.
Basically just another year for them.
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07-13-2021, 03:17 PM
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#422
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Darkon
Well have no fear guys - one of the lads over on HF is involved in Real Estate (no, not Orange Julius) in Edmonton and is assuring the board that there are incredible things in store this summer both in regards to moving cap out and bringing in new players. All this news he has heard from rubbing shoulders with hockey players already buying property in Edmonton in prep to moving there. These moves will complete the picture that was started with Keith and everyone will be amazed at the brain trust that is Oiler management. They went on then to drop hints of both Taylor Hall and Hyman ending up in Edmonton on sweetheart deals. You heard it here first, well, ok I got it from Nostradamus on HF but whatever you get what I mean.
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With 11M they'll re-up Larsson, Smith, Yamamoto, depth guys and add Hall and Hyman?
That is incredible! Holland Daze for 2022 GM of the year.
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07-13-2021, 03:22 PM
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#423
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Its already happening ….
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Originally Posted by Darkon
Well have no fear guys - one of the lads over on HF is involved in Real Estate (no, not Orange Julius) in Edmonton and is assuring the board that there are incredible things in store this summer both in regards to moving cap out and bringing in new players. All this news he has heard from rubbing shoulders with hockey players already buying property in Edmonton in prep to moving there. These moves will complete the picture that was started with Keith and everyone will be amazed at the brain trust that is Oiler management. They went on then to drop hints of both Taylor Hall and Hyman ending up in Edmonton on sweetheart deals. You heard it here first, well, ok I got it from Nostradamus on HF but whatever you get what I mean.
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07-13-2021, 04:30 PM
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#424
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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07-13-2021, 04:39 PM
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#425
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I bet Joe Nieuwendyk can still skate and he won 3 cups with 3 different teams. veteran leadership.
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07-13-2021, 04:50 PM
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#426
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Farther away from the Dome than I'd like
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Just heard the Islanders are shopping Nick Leddy at 5.5 mil and only for one year?
I wonder if there are any teams that could have used a guy and contract like this.
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07-13-2021, 04:55 PM
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#427
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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Lol
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Now, you might think the local media would be calling for blood over this, but despite an endless stream of mismanagement Edmonton has one of the most sycophantic local media groups in the league. And hence the real reason for this post, which I assure you is a real thing published by the city’s largest newspaper:
A few years back, I went to see The Eagles live in concert. I had seen the guys before, but a friend of mine in the music industry told me “Kurt, these guys still have it”. And so off I went. And as Don Henley launched into the very first verse of Hotel California, it struck me as I stood there in awe that “wow, this is still almost like listening to the album”. When Don Felder and Joe Walsh started to trade licks on arguably the most iconic guitar solo in popular music, it became clear that these guys could still shred, too. It was a phenomenal performance. What I’ve learned in my industry (which is my day job, actually) is that most acts who make it to the very top get there for a damn good reason: They’re just better than most everybody else. And so almost 40 years later, because the band had taken care of itself and kept up its chops, their commitment and raw talent still made them a reasonable facsimile of what they were in 1977. So, what does this have to do with Duncan Keith?
It’s an example of how I think some are missing what the value of having Duncan Keith would be. The comparisons between Keith and other signings by Edmonton front offices aren’t comparable. Pedigree matters. Those other guys were never as good as Keith. And most of them haven’t kept themselves in as good of shape as Keith either. So, not only did they start from behind in terms of pure skill. They didn’t close the gap with hard work and commitment. But Duncan Keith has. He too can still shred. People with no horse in the race but who work in hockey at a high level for a living say so.
We know Keith isn’t as good as back when Chicago was winning Cups. If he was Chicago wouldn’t trade him. Don Henley’s voice isn’t exactly as it was in the late 70’s, either. But it’s still “that voice, singing that song”. As a result, it’s still worth your hard-earned dough for a ticket to go and see him do it again. From most anyone else, you just won’t get the same quality, the same experience, the same knowledge, the same special touches.
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07-13-2021, 05:35 PM
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#428
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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This is amazing.
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07-13-2021, 05:48 PM
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#429
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
This is amazing.
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pretty sure I know (knew?) that blogger.Calgarian.
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07-13-2021, 06:07 PM
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#430
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Good thing the Flames weren't on Keith's list, as I bet the Flames' pro scouts loved this asking price.
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07-13-2021, 06:21 PM
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#431
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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Best line in the article:
"Honestly Justin Trudeau should use his emergency pandemic powers to redistribute McDavid and Draisaitl to organizations that aren’t run by total numbnuts, covered by reporters who insist that the buck-naked management is wearing Armani."
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07-13-2021, 06:27 PM
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#432
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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This reminds me of going through dry spells in my early 20s, and going to the cougar bar.
Edmonton only acquired Keith because because he showed interest. They didn't think about age or if it was really a good thing to do. They just needed the validation.
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07-13-2021, 07:05 PM
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#433
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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Oiler fan in the comments comparing Duncan Keith to Tom Brady 
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07-13-2021, 07:06 PM
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#434
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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That was a brilliant article. Glad to see it's not just Flames fans that notice the craziness in that market with the local media that has turned a blind eye to what's going on around them for 15 years. It really is bizarre.
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07-13-2021, 07:21 PM
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#435
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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“Honestly Justin Trudeau should use his emergency pandemic powers to redistribute McDavid and Draisaitl to organizations that aren’t run by total numbnuts”.
Great quote
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07-13-2021, 09:35 PM
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#436
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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"Isles give up 3 picks for 5.5 mil of cap space.
Oilers give up a pick and a player to take on 5.5 mil."
-Bax
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07-13-2021, 09:42 PM
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#437
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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“Shootiness” is an analytic?
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07-13-2021, 10:02 PM
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#438
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
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I’ve written about how many teams have crashed and burned by using the same illogic as the Montreal Expos of my youth — when your team with a strong core of talent fails because it’s filled out by sub-replacement-level randos, you blame your best players rather than actually trying to get them the help they need. This line of thought is 1)transparently stupid and 2)is responsible for countless trades that make teams far worse, but a lot of sportswriters and fans still think it’s the height of wisdom
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This is a solid take.
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07-13-2021, 10:20 PM
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#439
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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It raises an interesting question
Is Caleb Jones without considering Salary or other considerations a better defensemen than Duncan Keith
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07-13-2021, 10:53 PM
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#440
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
It raises an interesting question
Is Caleb Jones without considering Salary or other considerations a better defensemen than Duncan Keith
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I am being swayed. At the beginning of the week I thought even though they traded a Dman, they upgraded in the personnel in that trade. I haven't really watched Keith over the last little bit, but if his name wasn't Keith it wouldn't even be a contest comparing the metrics. I am sure Keith was put in a lot of tough situations, but that isn't going to change in Edmonton. This has train wreck written all over it.
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