It's not far more exciting though, no matter which path you choose it changes how each game works. No away goals means first legs will now be more wide open because playing for a clean sheet doesn't matter anymore. Might make the second leg less exciting though. But it's simply more fair, which is all that should matter. Away goals made sense when travelling away was a lot more onerous than simply jumping on a charter the day before and flying back a couple hours after the match ends.'
Like under the current model you are significantly better off as the home team with a 0-0 in the first leg then a 3-3, even though they are on a result basis the exact same thing. The one thing it does open up is more penalties, but there is no perfect system so you gotta deal with an imperfect system no matter.
You're arguing against yourself?
First you say it's not far more exciting with away goals then you say taking away away goals might make the second leg less exciting.
Then you're saying it's simply more fair then go on and say that it opens up more ties to be decided by penalties? Are you saying penalties is a fairer way of deciding a tie than away goals?
Not to mention in an era when player fatigue is constantly being mentioned there's now more chance of teams playing an extra 30 minutes.
I don't get why they had to change it given this creates more problems than solutions. In fact what does it solve?
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You're arguing against yourself?
First you say it's not far more exciting with away goals then you say taking away away goals might make the second leg less exciting.
Then you're saying it's simply more fair then go on and say that it opens up more ties to be decided by penalties? Are you saying penalties is a fairer way of deciding a tie than away goals?
Not to mention in an era when player fatigue is constantly being mentioned there's now more chance of teams playing an extra 30 minutes.
I don't get why they had to change it given this creates more problems than solutions. In fact what does it solve?
"Top clubs play too many games already"
"Let's play another 30 minutes in some of those games"
A matter of time before a top player gets injured significantly in the 115th minute, in a game his club wins and also would've won under the old rule, while avoiding said injury.
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Away goals is fundamentally arbitrary and incentivizes defence over offence for the home team. This should somewhat open up the game, psychologically. I fully support this move.
"Top clubs play too many games already"
"Let's play another 30 minutes in some of those games"
A matter of time before a top player gets injured significantly in the 115th minute, in a game his club wins and also would've won under the old rule, while avoiding said injury.
It's a given that come next April/May when the fixtures start to stack up, fatigue is setting in, and squads more stretched that there'll be complaints.
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Away goals is fundamentally arbitrary and incentivizes defence over offence for the home team. This should somewhat open up the game, psychologically. I fully support this move.
I would argue penalties is a lot more arbitrary than away goals.
And you could equally argue it incentivizes offence over defence for the away team.
I'm curious as to who is the driving force behind the change? The players? Managers? Big clubs?
And you could equally argue it incentivizes offence over defence for the away team.
You could, but that's part of the problem. As a home fan, do you want to watch your team on what is effectively a penalty kill? I would support a home goals tie-breaker over away goals.
It's a given that come next April/May when the fixtures start to stack up, fatigue is setting in, and squads more stretched that there'll be complaints.
I would argue penalties is a lot more arbitrary than away goals.
And you could equally argue it incentivizes offence over defence for the away team.
I'm curious as to who is the driving force behind the change? The players? Managers? Big clubs?
Mostly big clubs. Less chance of an upset when you can't fluke an away goal.
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I'm curious as to who is the driving force behind the change? The players? Managers? Big clubs?
It's either feedback from big clubs (Barcelona needs the extra 30 mins and penalties to sell more food and jersies for their tax bill) as fallout from the 4 day old Super League that UEFA is listening too, or UEFA just wanting to show everyone who's boss by tinkering.
I hope this embeds properly, because it’s quite remarkable. It’s a 13 minute video, but gives a good rundown of the financial issues facing Barcelona at this point. It’s somewhat astonishing, and at the end he speaks briefly about Atletico and Madrid, where things are better, but don’t sound great either.
I hope this embeds properly, because it’s quite remarkable. It’s a 13 minute video, but gives a good rundown of the financial issues facing Barcelona at this point. It’s somewhat astonishing, and at the end he speaks briefly about Atletico and Madrid, where things are better, but don’t sound great either.
Um....I'm hoping FSG put on the hard press to get Liverpool paid our sweet Coutinho cash before Barca goes entirely insolvent.
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Lionel Messi and Barcelona have reached an agreement for the forward to sign a new five-year deal with the Catalan club, sources have confirmed to ESPN. Sources added that Messi has accepted a significant wage reduction to prolong his stay.
He went from €1 million a week to €500,000 a week, it is a huge pay cut but not exactly poverty wages all of a sudden. Plus they tacked on a couple extra years where he'll probably never be in the matchday squad, but still get paid €500,000 a week, to make up a lot of the difference. Creative accounting, which they are gonna need a #### ton of to get themselves out of this mess they've created.
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