06-28-2021, 02:43 PM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by bdubbs
NHL games, and make it so ELC players are excluded from the rule.
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Wouldn’t have stopped the Kane example, or Stamkos either (or Anderson in Toronto). It really would only apply to Kucherov out of the examples of creative cap compliance I can think of.
The issue with the Hawks and Leafs examples wasn’t the players - it was the bodies added with freed up cap space. Toronto could never have signed Rittich, Foligno, Nash or Hutton.
Tampa only added Savard (a good player). But their issue with Kucherov was that they had signed a few RFAs to raises as opposed to signing new blood. I still need convincing that, at the start of the season when they gave those raises, they knew that Kucherov would be ready prior to the end of the season. Because that’s they only way they could have knowingly taken advantage.
Last edited by GioforPM; 06-28-2021 at 02:48 PM.
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06-28-2021, 02:49 PM
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#202
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Wouldn’t have stopped the Kane example. It really would only apply to Kucherov out of the examples of creative cap compliance I can think of.
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I don't mind the Kane example as he played more than the suggested 5 or 10 games for Chicago through the earlier part of the year prior to his injury.
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06-28-2021, 03:07 PM
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#203
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Slightly right of left of center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Caulfield played exactly 10 games. All while Price and Gallagher were on LTIR.  |
What... I thought only Tampa takes advantage of that.
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06-28-2021, 03:07 PM
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#204
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bdubbs
I don't mind the Kane example as he played more than the suggested 5 or 10 games for Chicago through the earlier part of the year prior to his injury.
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He did, but the Hawks ended up almost exactly over the cap by his salary at PO time due to adding three impact players, and he came back a month before his estimate, for the whole POs as opposed to the WCF.
So if Kucherov had played 5 or 10 games at the beginning of the season, then went on LTIR no one would complain if they added $9M in salary at the TDL?
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06-28-2021, 03:11 PM
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#205
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Caulfield played exactly 10 games. All while Price and Gallagher were on LTIR. |
Wow I slept through that…
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06-28-2021, 03:15 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Wow I slept through that…
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He didn’t really light it up, despite the hype (and they did try).
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06-28-2021, 03:20 PM
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#207
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
He didn’t really light it up, despite the hype (and they did try).
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Did he have his 2 OT winners then or was that later?
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06-28-2021, 03:27 PM
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#208
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Lets go Habs, Canada's Team!
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06-28-2021, 03:28 PM
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#209
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Did he have his 2 OT winners then or was that later?
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He did. his “not lighting it up” was at the beginning of his stint. He ended up 4 goals and an assist, so a pretty good debut goal wise. He struggled in the next couple games after those two goals, Montreal lost 5 in a row and he got yanked.
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06-28-2021, 03:31 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
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Honestly this happens so rarely that I don't think it warrants a rule change. It's like when people were clamoring for a fix for the EBUG system after that Zamboni driver went in against the Leafs. If it starts happening a lot we can talk about needing to fix it, but one team every 5 years based on injury timing... not really worth addressing.
Besides, if the league really wanted to address it they could just declare it to be cap circumvention and institute some penalty, like you lose a pick or have a cap penalty next year or whatever.
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06-28-2021, 04:17 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Honestly this happens so rarely that I don't think it warrants a rule change. It's like when people were clamoring for a fix for the EBUG system after that Zamboni driver went in against the Leafs. If it starts happening a lot we can talk about needing to fix it, but one team every 5 years based on injury timing... not really worth addressing.
Besides, if the league really wanted to address it they could just declare it to be cap circumvention and institute some penalty, like you lose a pick or have a cap penalty next year or whatever.
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For the Kucherov example you need (a) a star player with (b) a serious injury/surgery that at least can be estimated for the whole season to rehab, (c) you have to make the POs even without that player and (d) he has to actually come back and make a difference in the POs.
A rule change would put teams in a real bind when facing a serious injury to a player. Do they not replace him and possibly toss the season on the chance they’d have some sort of severe penalty if the recovery goes really well?
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06-28-2021, 05:16 PM
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#212
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Norm!
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Go neither team go. Go neither team go.
2 4 6 8 who do we appreciate neither neither neither.
What do we want Mutually assured destruction, when do we get it, in about the next two weeks.
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06-28-2021, 05:24 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
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The series previews are all posted in the first post of the thread and updated!
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06-28-2021, 05:34 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
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Surprised to hear Chris Cuthbert calling his first Stanley Cup Final.
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06-28-2021, 06:01 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Let's go Habs, dismantle the cheaters! F TB!
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06-28-2021, 06:14 PM
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#218
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Franchise Player
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Armia tested negative and is cleared from COVID protocol. Will play if he gets to Tampa in time
Edit. Twitter says he is not dressed
Last edited by Canada 02; 06-28-2021 at 06:17 PM.
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06-28-2021, 06:21 PM
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#219
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Voted for Kodos
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Soccer starts on time.
This is 6:20 and the game hasn’t started yet.
Embarrassing for hockey.
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06-28-2021, 06:24 PM
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#220
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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This chick is out of tune. Usually sharp but also flat sometimes.
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