06-24-2021, 10:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
So that was just Tocchet and his agent blowing smoke to make Tocchet more enticing for Seattle?
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No. It was old news. They decided to hire Muller instead of Tocchet. If they were to hire Tocchet they would have had to wait to see what Seattle did and then potentially miss out on Tocchet and Muller. It was one or the other and they didn't want to miss out on both. I suspect Muller had interest elsewhere too.
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06-24-2021, 10:46 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Gallant seemed the obvious choice and just sat there for so long. Again, underwhelming. I guess that Francis and him have history, the same way Treliving and Peters had history. Worked together once for 2 weeks.
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I'd imagine Gallant would have gotten Seattle but it's pretty hard to say no to a NYR gig.
Seattle might not be offering top dollar after paying a bundle just to be a team.
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06-24-2021, 11:11 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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I was expecting this all along.
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06-24-2021, 11:20 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Dave Hakstol was awful in Philly.
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06-24-2021, 11:24 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Huh.
Hopefully we pick up Tocchet now.
Weird pick. They probably had a lot of interest. Sounds like Francis saw a lot of him during the worlds in 2019. Must have made a good impression.
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06-24-2021, 11:37 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Gallant seemed the obvious choice and just sat there for so long. Again, underwhelming...
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I continue to believe that Gerard Gallant is not nearly as coveted in NHL circles as he is by fans.
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06-24-2021, 11:39 AM
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#27
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I continue to believe that Gerard Gallant is not nearly as coveted in NHL circles as he is by fans.
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This appears to be the case for Bruce Boudreau as well.
Although he may end up being hired as a Leafs assistant coach.
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06-24-2021, 11:43 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I continue to believe that Gerard Gallant is not nearly as coveted in NHL circles as he is by fans.
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Which, for me at least, I don't understand at all given his stellar coaching record, but hockey professionals certainly know more than me.
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06-24-2021, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Which, for me at least, I don't understand at all given his stellar coaching record, but hockey professionals certainly know more than me.
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It seems like coaches (as opposed to players) are evaluated a lot more on PO performance. By that standard, Gallant doesn't have a stellar record.
Gallant has, in 9 seasons as HC, been out of the POs 3 times, lost in round one twice, and made the Finals once. The other 3 seasons he was fired mid season after mediocre starts. Now his first 3 seasons were in Columbus, a bad team. But he was fired off of a pretty good Florida team (first place in the division the year before) and a great Vegas team, after round one exits and a poor start to the season.
Maybe that's the issue with Boudreau too. 14 years as HC (with very good teams), only 4 years past round one (and only one round 3).
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06-24-2021, 12:15 PM
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#30
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Lifetime Suspension
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Sounds like a Hak.
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06-24-2021, 12:50 PM
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#31
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Scoring Winger
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We should know. Have had allot of first time coaches 
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Originally Posted by bax
A lot of coaches flop in their first stint in the big leagues and Hakstol didn’t even do that. Underwhelming for sure, but this is a wait and see for me.
Seems like lots of guys grow, adapt, and figure it out during their second go around.
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06-24-2021, 01:07 PM
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#32
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Somehow, I get the sense Seattle is not going to be an elite team like Vegas right away.
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06-24-2021, 01:07 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by getoverit
We should know. Have had allot of first time coaches |
Have we? Wasn't Ward the first first-timer since Playfair?
The Flames have had more former Cup-winning head coaches than first-time head coaches over the last 15 years.
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06-24-2021, 01:23 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Somehow, I get the sense Seattle is not going to be an elite team like Vegas right away.
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No way will the fleecings happen again.
Nosirreebob. The GMs have learned. Yup. No way.
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06-24-2021, 01:28 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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06-24-2021, 01:43 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess
Seattle's gonna really suck, aren't they?
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They'll win the cup next year.
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06-24-2021, 02:00 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
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If Hakstol has success then great but this smells of a stop-gap to get a current coach who's under contract.
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06-24-2021, 02:02 PM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Gallant seemed the obvious choice and just sat there for so long. Again, underwhelming. I guess that Francis and him have history, the same way Treliving and Peters had history. Worked together once for 2 weeks. Feels like an odd reason alone to hire a guy but who knows. Like you say may be budget related
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There is clearly an issue with Gallant. He seems to get results but is unwanted.
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06-24-2021, 02:10 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Have we? Wasn't Ward the first first-timer since Playfair?
The Flames have had more former Cup-winning head coaches than first-time head coaches over the last 15 years.
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Well, we recently hired Darryl Sutter. It was his first time coaching since he retired.
Ward was a first time head coach, yes.
Peters was a first time coaching a Canadian Team
Gulutzan was a first time coach for an NHL team that wears Red.
Lots of first timers!
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06-24-2021, 02:12 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
There is clearly an issue with Gallant. He seems to get results but is unwanted.
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He's just no-nonsense, he wants full control on who's in the lineup and who plays with who, he will butt heads with some GM's.
Sutter is the same way.
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