[PST] Quarter Finals: Montreal Canadiens vs. Winnipeg Jets - HABS WIN SERIES 4-0

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Matthew Barnaby:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1400476112006823941

I agree with this take. He makes no attempt to do anything other than plow the guy.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

https://twitter.com/user/status/1400507380933201932

So, to recap - taking a 200-foot run at a defenceless player in order to try to take his head off is a clean hit, and accidentally nicking a player’s ankle with one’s skate while attempting to stop along the boards is an egregious and malicious attempt to injure.

lol I know right? Maurice is a fking twatwaffle (to steal Everlast's term lol), he's the sole reason why I loathe the Jets.

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

Its like MMA .....a guy gets tagged and is wobbly and obviously cannot defend himself yet ....hell let's rain down with some hammer fists and make sure we don't stop until we draw blood and the ref pulls us off.

This is unfortunately a bad take. You really think that a fighter is trying to draw blood on an opponent. Maybe you might have been better using an example of a fighter landing a punch on a defenceless and unconscious opponent would have been better

Please try to watch a sport and educate yourself on it before using it as an example.

MMA, like every sport, has its faults. It very well might not be for you (there's anything wrong with that). But the example you laid out never happens and is just fabricated.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The puck was well into the goal. Freeze this at 8-10 seconds.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1400289054399287296

This ISO on Scheifele has definitely put me in the "firm suspension" camp. I would like to see something in the 5-7 game range. We don't know where exactly Scheifele decided he was going to try and end Evans career but I would guess by the blue line for sure. He was full speed charging down the ice, like what did he expect would happen?

I'm a bit in the Evans has to be aware mindset, as I believe players making/ leaving themselves vulnerable is a huge problem in all levls of hockey, but you can be as aware as anyone, and when another player decides they are going to take you out, sometimes there is nothing you can do about it. Evans could've pinned the puck against the end wall, and based on how this played out, you can bet Scheifele would've hammered him into the boards behind the net. Just a dumb, horrible, selfish, amateur reaction from Scheifele with zero regard for any consequences of his action. Lucky Evans is seemingly ok and does not have a broken neck.

[81MC]

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I think because it's charging, half a second earlier stops a goal but it's still a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. It isn't interference, being a half second earlier or later on this play doesn't change anything.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

The rule isn't new...you can't skate 200 feet in a straight line and then make a hit.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

What don't you get exactly? Whether or not he prevents a goal, it's a charge and a hit to the head. So what's your point?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

He coasts in from the hash marks for sure, doesn't leave his feet and catches him a millisecond too late to stop the goal. It's the second round of the playoffs and people actually think he should just let up and let them increase the lead to 2 goals with about a minute to go. It's really bizarre.

And to add to this even further, I would imagine that Evans would among the first to say he should've had his head up. He's played enough hockey to know that.

I have no doubt that he's getting suspended, because nothing here makes sense, but that's not what ought to happen.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

Because it was an avoidable hit, and he knocked a guy the #### out maybe

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I actually don’t understand hockey anymore apparently.

Half a second quicker, and what shielfle did stops a goal, would people still expect him to lighten up? Like, finish your check... but not too hard now? Guys get hit putting the puck in the net, it happens. Given the pace of play, I don’t understand how it’s as malicious as it’s being made out to be. Sure, call a charge, though if that is stopped a goal it wouldn’t be from what I can tell. But a suspension? Because he was a quarter second late making his play? I don’t get it.

Half a second, quarter second, which is it man?

These guys are professionals, not beer-leaguers. Schiefele knew he was beaten and started gliding in for the kill, instead of changing direction or moving to bat the puck away.

[P-DAZZLE]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

This is unfortunately a bad take. You really think that a fighter is trying to draw blood on an opponent. Maybe you might have been better using an example of a fighter landing a punch on a defenceless and unconscious opponent would have been better

Please try to watch a sport and educate yourself on it before using it as an example.

MMA, like every sport, has its faults. It very well might not be for you (there's anything wrong with that). But the example you laid out never happens and is just fabricated.

I actively try to avoid UFC and MMA "highlights" and I have still seen this happen many times. I don't know about intent to draw blood, but a fighter hitting someone who is clearly out or can't defend himself anymore with several more punches before the fight can be stopped.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Stanley

lol I know right? Maurice is a fking twatwaffle (to steal Everlast's term lol), he's the sole reason why I loathe the Jets.

Every coach would say the same thing. How often has a coach come out and said "yeah whoa that was a dirty hit eh?" about their own player. Would be nice if they did though.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 81MC

Like, finish your check... but not too hard now?

Yes. This.
The purpose of checking should be to separate player from puck.
Anything more than that should be considered a penalty.

What's more "finish your check" is a phrase that needs to be scrubbed from the sport.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yes. This.
The purpose of checking should be to separate player from puck.
Anything more than that should be considered a penalty.

What's more "finish your check" is a phrase that needs to be scrubbed from the sport.

Imagine if we called it by its real name... interference.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Because it was an avoidable hit, and he knocked a guy the #### out maybe

An avoidable hit? Literally fractions of a second sooner and that is absolutely the right play.

In understand you can’t make a beeline to a player just to make a hit, but in this case he was clearly back checking hard to the player with the puck, and he made the appropriate play on the body. That’s vastly different than charging for the sake of laying someone out.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Every coach would say the same thing. How often has a coach come out and said "yeah whoa that was a dirty hit eh?" about their own player. Would be nice if they did though.

Oh I realize that...I just personally dislike Maurice regardless

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by 81MC

An avoidable hit? Literally fractions of a second sooner and that is absolutely the right play.

In understand you can’t make a beeline to a player just to make a hit, but in this case he was clearly back checking hard to the player with the puck, and he made the appropriate play on the body. That’s vastly different than charging for the sake of laying someone out.

Nope. While he is loading up his weight preparing to deliver the check, the puck is deposited in the net and he simply doesn’t have to push through and complete the check

Whether it is or is not a good hit in an imaginary alternate scenario is irrelevant

He has to be aware of the position of the player he is checking and he has a clean look all the way in

Evans did nothing surprising

Scheifele was committed to the hit, that was his decision and it was not a good one

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by 81MC

An avoidable hit? Literally fractions of a second sooner and that is absolutely the right play.

In understand you can’t make a beeline to a player just to make a hit, but in this case he was clearly back checking hard to the player with the puck, and he made the appropriate play on the body. That’s vastly different than charging for the sake of laying someone out.

Define appropriate.

Fractions of a second sooner, perhaps he prevents a goal but he'd still be sitting there on the phone having a hearing today, and you'd still have a guy out indefinitely with a concussion.

[GirlySports]

Why isn't Maurice blasting the refs for giving 5 and a game for a clean hit?