06-03-2021, 08:20 AM
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#381
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Hard to predict what someone will get for a suspension anyway with this DOPS crew, but in this case especially so since there doesn't seem to be much if any precedent that I can find. Charging suspensions are usually either for people jumping into hits, or have some other illegal element (hit from behind, picking the head, interference). The closest I can find was Eakin getting 4 games for blowing up Lundqvist and that's a bit different too, given it's a goalie.
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06-03-2021, 08:25 AM
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#382
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Itse
In other news, Montreal never gets credit for anything.
They're not as bad as their regular season.
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No, they are pretty bad. Beating an equally bad team in a terrible hockey game doesn't suddenly change that.
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06-03-2021, 08:26 AM
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#383
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Goriders
I think the big difference was Kassian doesn’t have a brain to concuss
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I legit chuckled out loud at this.
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06-03-2021, 08:29 AM
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#384
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Not sure how you could compare the Tkachuk hit. Matthew doesn't even put his shoulder into it and took maybe five strides. Scheifele was coming in full speed and launched himself into him.
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And Kassian hadn’t just finished scoring a goal.
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06-03-2021, 08:33 AM
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#385
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#1 Goaltender
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Was that actually a charge? What’s the rule on that, three strides?
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06-03-2021, 08:36 AM
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#386
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by 81MC
Was that actually a charge? What’s the rule on that, three strides?
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Like all NHL rules, it’s quite grey:
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Rule 42 - Charging
42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.
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06-03-2021, 08:36 AM
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#387
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2021
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
No, they are pretty bad. Beating an equally bad team in a terrible hockey game doesn't suddenly change that.
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I wish my pretty bad hockey team was up 1-0 in the second round of the playoffs.
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06-03-2021, 08:46 AM
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#388
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Scoring Winger
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Scheifele deserves a 5 game suspension for that. Will probably get 2 games because playoffs/star player/not known as a dirty player factor.
That said, he's gotta make that play. There's a minute left. You're down 1. There's a medium probability that the wraparound gets stopped by his teammate / Evans fans on it. If Scheifele hits him in the chest instead of the head, you've taken out Evans for a few seconds. Momentum shifts. It's a 6 on 4 going the other way. I don't like the end result, but I get the line of thinking of what Scheifele was trying to do.
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06-03-2021, 08:47 AM
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#389
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by BMStrikesAgain
I wish my pretty bad hockey team was up 1-0 in the second round of the playoffs.
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They could win the Cup and Textcritic would still call them trash...
...haters gonna hate...
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06-03-2021, 08:59 AM
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#390
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: BC
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Originally Posted by 1991 Canadian
Scheifele deserves a 5 game suspension for that. Will probably get 2 games because playoffs/star player/not known as a dirty player factor.
That said, he's gotta make that play. There's a minute left. You're down 1. There's a medium probability that the wraparound gets stopped by his teammate / Evans fans on it. If Scheifele hits him in the chest instead of the head, you've taken out Evans for a few seconds. Momentum shifts. It's a 6 on 4 going the other way. I don't like the end result, but I get the line of thinking of what Scheifele was trying to do.
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I can see Scheifele getting 2 games appealed down to 1. It's a tough play where a split second decision to go for the body instead of the stick was made. In the end a dirty hit where contact to the head was made and the league needs to keep those out of the game.
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06-03-2021, 09:09 AM
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#392
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
No, they are pretty bad. Beating an equally bad team in a terrible hockey game doesn't suddenly change that.
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Montreal might be a bit of a sleeper to be honest. Their underlying numbers were strong in the regular season.
In the regular season at 5v5 they were:
Corsi: 54.5% (2nd)
xGF: 52.93 (10th)
Their issue was finishing, goaltending, & special teams in the regular season.
Save Percentage: .896 (27th)
Shooting Percentage: 9.05% (22nd)
Power Play: 19.2% (17th)
Penalty Kill: 78.5% (23rd)
But now they have playoff Carey Price who always seems to be a more focused and different goalie than he has been in the regular season in recent years, and special teams become less important when penalties become non-existent in the playoffs.
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06-03-2021, 09:22 AM
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#393
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
I’m expecting 2 because he is ‘not a dirty player’
I personally don’t see it as split second. He skates nearly the full length of the ice in a straight line, and Evans is extended and vulnerable and does not make any last minute or unpredictable move to change his position unexpectedly
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I think what saves him is there's an empty net and so sprinting the length of the ice at full speed is an understandable action. Otherwise, this would probably be like 10 games
In this case, I think Scheifele can argue he was making a defensive play and just got a little carried away
Last edited by Geeoff; 06-03-2021 at 09:25 AM.
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06-03-2021, 09:32 AM
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#394
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
I think what saves him is there's an empty net and so sprinting the length of the ice at full speed is an understandable action. Otherwise, this would probably be like 10 games
In this case, I think Scheifele can argue he was making a defensive play and just got a little carried away
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Yes, I can see 1 game or no games because of this. Although the fact that Evans is hurt will also play a factor.
You guys play hockey, I don't, can you skate full speed back to try and remove the guy from the puck without hitting him that hard?
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06-03-2021, 09:33 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Montreal might be a bit of a sleeper to be honest. Their underlying numbers were strong in the regular season.
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In a weak division. They are not a playoff team in the regular division.
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06-03-2021, 09:37 AM
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#396
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Their issue was finishing, goaltending, & special teams in the regular season.
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So they couldn't score. Couldn't stop the puck. And sucked at special teams?
That to me sounds like a bad hockey team...
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06-03-2021, 09:40 AM
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#397
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Originally Posted by troutman
In a weak division. They are not a playoff team in the regular division.
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This is a bogus comment. None of the teams played each other so how can you rate this until they actually play each other?
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Originally Posted by flamingred89
So they couldn't score. Couldn't stop the puck. And sucked at special teams?
That to me sounds like a bad hockey team...
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In the regular season. Which means nothing now.
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06-03-2021, 09:43 AM
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#398
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Powerplay Quarterback
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[QUOTE=GirlySports;7881907]Yes, I can see 1 game or no games because of this. Although the fact that Evans is hurt will also play a factor.
You guys play hockey, I don't, can you skate full speed back to try and remove the guy from the puck without hitting him that hard?[/T]
It’s a split second decision, but I think he could see he wasn’t going to prevent the goal, and could have let up to either lessen the blow or even avoid him. But I’m sure he thought he could deliver a message by”finishing the check”.
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06-03-2021, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Yes, I can see 1 game or no games because of this. Although the fact that Evans is hurt will also play a factor.
You guys play hockey, I don't, can you skate full speed back to try and remove the guy from the puck without hitting him that hard?
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It is very possible to skate hard, try to make the hockey play stick on puck, and not explode through a vulnerable player with head as point of contact
Most players would do it
He could have let up or made some attempt to turn but was fully committed to hitting through Evans
Even the last split second when you are loading your weight on a leg and bracing to deliver the hit you have time to stop from that push and elect not to proceed with the hit
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06-03-2021, 09:49 AM
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#400
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by habernac
This is a bogus comment. None of the teams played each other so how can you rate this until they actually play each other?
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You don't think TB, BOS and FLA are much better than EDM,WIN and CGY? Ok.
They were 5th in that division last time (including 9 loser points). Minus 9 goal differential.
https://www.nhl.com/standings/2019/division
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