2021 NHL Draft

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Lysell is growing on me. I dig the tenacity,speed and skill. Kid can rip it too.

Yep he is fast. Flames need speed . I originally wanted a center but looking at our prospect pool we need just about everything. A right handed Rw with speed would be nice to have. I really want Kent Johnson but don’t think it will happen.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In terms of predicting what will happen, I think you're about as close as one can get. You obviously have Coronato quite high, but I think he might actually deserve to be there.

Open question to all: what concerns you more, Lucius's injury problems or Sillinger's skating?

Sillingers skating concerns me more. You can recover from injuries and still have the tools you had before. You can only improve skating slightly.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In terms of predicting what will happen, I think you're about as close as one can get. You obviously have Coronato quite high, but I think he might actually deserve to be there.

Open question to all: what concerns you more, Lucius's injury problems or Sillinger's skating?

Coronato almost has as many goals as he did GP, much like Caufield in 2019.

With that being said, it’s between him or Sillinger who are going to move in the top 10, maybe unwarranted. I can’t shake that Coronato will be a hell of a player with the numbers he put up this year.

As for your open question, anything involving injuries are always a concern. You could have a total bust like Patrick because of injury or someone that gets over it like Washington prospect Hendrix Lapierre from the 2020 draft that had a good d+1 season (I know it’s still too early to judge either player).

I think Sillinger has the higher floor, Lucius with the higher ceiling. I want the Flames taking risks and finding a top end player, and I see that more in Lucius than Sillinger, even though Sillinger is absolutely the safer pick.

[Sandman]

As much as I love Sillinger, I agree that perhaps the Flames aren’t the right organization to draft him at this time. We already have some mediocre skaters on the big team, in our top-6, and some of our best prospects have skating issues (Zary and Ruzicka). I would also like to see more speed and possibly size in the org. There may be players on the same basic plane of talent that they are looking at, that can skate.

[SoulOfTheFlame]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In terms of predicting what will happen, I think you're about as close as one can get. You obviously have Coronato quite high, but I think he might actually deserve to be there.

Open question to all: what concerns you more, Lucius's injury problems or Sillinger's skating?

Calgary's high skill first round pick development program..

[Monahammer]

https://youtu.be/5M82Sp4gbjc

The whole package is nice, Sillingers shot is obviously incredible and on display. But starting ~ 2:30 there are two plays in a row that showcase some pretty great speed and agility in skating. I think hes improved on these concerns.

Edit: sillinger is #34

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In terms of predicting what will happen, I think you're about as close as one can get. You obviously have Coronato quite high, but I think he might actually deserve to be there.

Open question to all: what concerns you more, Lucius's injury problems or Sillinger's skating?

C) Lucius not wanting to sign with the Flames and re-entering the draft after completing college

OR

D) Flames trading the pick for immediate help

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

Get ready for Matt Pelech 2.0.

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

Believe in The Process!

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

5x10 million coming this summer!

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

Feels great being a Kraken fan so far! #2 overall!

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

Calgary's high skill first round pick development program..

Maybe go troll Kraken puck for a while. Or better yet, step back from the keyboard for a while. Go get some fresh air. It may make you less miserable. If not for your own sake, then for ours.

[Moneyhands23]

On a bit of a side note

Anyone here if the young stars tournament is on for this September?

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

https://youtu.be/5M82Sp4gbjc

The whole package is nice, Sillingers shot is obviously incredible and on display. But starting ~ 2:30 there are two plays in a row that showcase some pretty great speed and agility in skating. I think hes improved on these concerns.

Edit: sillinger is #34

He’s improved his skating, no doubt- but I still see issues there. Like I said, it’s not as big a deal as people say. Look at it this way: folks LOVE McTavish and Lucius, and so do I, but they have skating issues too. Pastujov, Othmann, Svechkov have them too. Is Sillinger slower than McTavish? Probably not.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Sandman

He’s improved his skating, no doubt- but I still see issues there. Like I said, it’s not as big a deal as people say. Look at it this way: folks LOVE McTavish and Lucius, and so do I, but they have skating issues too. Pastujov, Othmann, Svechkov have them too. Is Sillinger slower than McTavish? Probably not.

Pinelli is someone who is being slept on, as an aside based on your comment.

I think sillingers skating is better than mctavish's today. Definitely not a chasm between the two.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

https://youtu.be/5M82Sp4gbjc

The whole package is nice, Sillingers shot is obviously incredible and on display. But starting ~ 2:30 there are two plays in a row that showcase some pretty great speed and agility in skating. I think hes improved on these concerns.

Edit: sillinger is #34

Hockey IQ trumps speed. Speed is also something that can be worked on and improved in the next couple of years. A lot of players have overcome that hurdle. Obviously comparing him to a future HOF player isn't fair, but I recall there being some concerns about Iginla's skating and it really improved.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Maybe go troll Kraken puck for a while. Or better yet, step back from the keyboard for a while. Go get some fresh air. It may make you less miserable. If not for your own sake, then for ours.

Good call
This is a really good thread with fantastic content
Let’s keep it that way

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It seems to me like Beniers has been moving all around in this draft. I think the actual best players might all be D and he’s just getting the benefit of being probably the top forward.

I don't think he's even the best forward. That title belongs to Eklund IMO. Is he even the best center? Tough call. I like Beniers though, when it comes to players who have a non stop motor, he's at the tippy top. I like what one scouting report said about him. He's the safest pick in the draft. Maybe not a top six C, but and NHL center none the less. High floor low ceiling.

That may be why he's ranked at the too of this specific covid draft. He's a sure thing.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I don't think he's even the best forward. That title belongs to Eklund IMO. Is he even the best center? Tough call. I like Beniers though, when it comes to players who have a non stop motor, he's at the tippy top. I like what one scouting report said about him. He's the safest pick in the draft. Maybe not a top six C, but and NHL center none the less. High floor low ceiling.

That may be why he's ranked at the too of this specific covid draft. He's a sure thing.

I agree completely, but I think Beniers' and Johnson's offense is very underrated-scoring a ppg in college as a 17/18 year old is nothing to sniff at, regardless of how good their team was. I can easily see both being top-6 players.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

https://youtu.be/5M82Sp4gbjc

The whole package is nice, Sillingers shot is obviously incredible and on display. But starting ~ 2:30 there are two plays in a row that showcase some pretty great speed and agility in skating. I think hes improved on these concerns.

Edit: sillinger is #34

Thx for this. I'm actually impressed how quickly he moves his legs. And totally can get stronger on the strides to get even faster. This instills a bit more confidence if we do end up taking him.

[Sandman]

C Victor Stjernborg,5'11"203lbs (Vaxjo, J20, SWE): Captain of the team, with 19gp/9g/8a/17pts. His play earned him 30 games in the SHL, where he was a defensive forward, and PKer. Though he has been cast as a defensive forward at the next level, his offense has been grossly underrated-his production was not far off of that of Lysell (13pts in 11 games), Rosen (12 in 12), or Stenman (11 in 12). Stjernborg had less talent to play with, and sacrifices offensive numbers to play an air-tight defensive game. I really like this kid-he's an uber competitive, team-first future Captain at the professional level. He's a leader, and plays the game right.

This kid has a truly high motor, and is a lunch-pail guy. He plays with pace, and is very strong. His offensive game is simple, but very solid, perhaps lacking some of the dynamic qualities of the three players I mentioned above. He has good hands for passing and shooting, and he's a creative playmaker with great anticipation and hockey sense. Storms in on the forecheck to create offense, and hustles back to fulfill his defensive duties. Goes to the net as well as anyone.

Stjernborg plays an uncompromising defensive game, which is already further developed than most prospects in this class. Sacrifices numbers to play the team game. Doesn't get stressed in difficult situations, and battles all over the ice. Good against the rush-steals the puck, and gets the transition going. I think he's a little like a Mikael Backlund. He's pegged to go in the 2nd/3rd round, and I would love it if we grabbed him.

[Sandman]

RW/LW Niko Huuhtanen,6'1"203lbs (Tappara U20,FIN): 37gp/20g/14a/34pts,73 PIM, and 5 points in 7 U-18 games. I liked him, and disliked him all at once. He plays the big, hard-nosed power forward game I like-very mean and physical. He's got the big, world-class hard shot,-and he gets a ton of those shots on net every game. Uses his body in puck battles, and can really throw a hit. Soft hands for passing. Needs work on his skating though-that's what I don't like about him, but he has potential.

[SoulOfTheFlame]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Maybe go troll Kraken puck for a while. Or better yet, step back from the keyboard for a while. Go get some fresh air. It may make you less miserable. If not for your own sake, then for ours.

Please take my comments with a heavy dose of sarcasm but I can't deny I'm super negative about the org. Sorry for bringing you down man.

[Sandman]

RHD Bryce Montgomery, 6'5"220lbs (London,OHL): 2pts, 9PIM in 33 games in 2019-20. He's a real intriguing, but raw prospect with huge potential that has been compared to Brandon Carlo. I've read that he's an average skater, but his highlights tell a different story-he looks pretty fast for a big guy. Uses his body to win battles, and clear the crease. Big shot, but needs work on his accuracy. Also needs to be meaner, and more physical. Defensive defenseman with big offensive upside. Only played 6-9 minutes a game in London, and no meaningful hockey this season. Rated 90th by THN.