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Old 05-28-2021, 09:39 AM   #601
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My late round intrigue is for Brody Lamb.
CS has him ranked at #178.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/623805/brody-lamb

Would have loved to see what he could have done with a full year at the junior level because his stats in high school are unbelievable. Hard to find any open source scouting reports on him.

But in his last 46 high school games he has 98 goals and 153 points.
Just based on those numbers how do you not take a look at him.
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Kyle Kukkonen
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Ranked #78 by CS
Another kid that is playing at to low of a level it looks like.
In high school levels he is putting up 2-3 points per game.
Again based on offensive numbers how do you not take a look at him for the late rounds.
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I really appreciate Sandman posting all of these write-ups, I really enjoy them.

My FC mock draft for the Flames:
1. MCTAVISH MASON (C) -unlikely to happen but potential for 1C, never passing that up as I feel it's more likely to find a 1D and 1G later in the draft, where you don't find 1C later in the draft often.

2. PEART JACK (D) -NCAA bound D but rising fast, 2 way LHS Rookie of the year. I think he's going to be a very solid D man but after Adam Fox I admit I'd be worried a little.

3. KIDNEY RILEY (C) -High IQ C, amazing playoffs right now, more chances to hit on a C and high IQ players are a weak spot for me.

3. DACH COLTON (C) -I am hoping for a Zach Hyman type, not necessarily the most skilled, but physical, hard working, the type that excels in the playoffs when things get a little tough. Hopefully a 2/3C that can play top 2 line W as well.

My drafting Philosophy is intelligence, skating, size in that order. Before I even look at those attributes I look for the ability to score at the Junior level. If you can't score there, you almost always can't score at the NHL level. I think goals percentage relative to teammates is a good indicator of if you're driving the play. Player A scoring 50P in 40GP with linemates scoring 55 and 53 I would judge a little harsher than Player B scoring 40P in 40GP with linemates scoring 35P and 30P.
Lastly I prefer risers in the draft rather than those that seem to slip although I have not gathered enough evidence to say whether that's right or wrong historically.
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Old 05-28-2021, 10:54 AM   #604
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RHD Jack Bar 6'2"194lbs (Chicago, USHL): Yet another member of the Steel (5g/10a/15pts in 34 games), this one is a Canadian born defenseman, originally drafted by the Petes 54th overall in 2018. Before going to the USHL, he played for St.Andrews College in Ontario-a private boarding school, and would be playing for Harvard this year if there weren't immigration issues. He will play there next year. Bar is as academically inclined as he is athletic. This is a guy we would love on the Flames-he's projected to be a two-way, puck moving D-man in the NHL with size and a mean streak.

Bar is known for for his aggressive, offensive style, and his poise in both ends of the rink. He has a good shot, and times his pinches well so as to not interfere with his defensive responsibilities. He's a smooth skater, with a powerful stride to join the rush, and can skate the puck through all 3 zones. He's also known for his puck movement.

Bar's physicality might be his best attribute. Steve Kournianos of The Draft Analyst said,"He's mean. He's mean, aggressive, angry-he just loves to hit everything. He'll hit anyone, anywhere. The thing about Bar is he has puck skills. He can skate. He has size. He has really good hands. He's always aggressive. The big thing with him is how tough and physical he is." Bar has a B rating from Central Scouting, meaning they think he will be a second or third round pick.
Kinda sounds like a younger Josh Manson. Would love to use a 2nd rounder on this guy.
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My FC draft du jour.

IMO sillinger > Mctavish. Sillinger has outperformed McTavish at every level they've played together. Had more than a ppg in the WHL last year, D-1.

Someone like Nadeau is very interesting prospect later too. Large RHS guy who can put up points.
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You'd think Nadeau would be projected to go higher with those numbers.
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You'd think Nadeau would be projected to go higher with those numbers.
Had a very bad year last year, his first in the Q, after coming in with a lot of Hype. Seems to have soured everyone on him quite a bit. I think the upside is still there.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:41 AM   #608
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You'd think Nadeau would be projected to go higher with those numbers.
Skating issues. I don’t think the flames need another slow center
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Old 05-28-2021, 12:09 PM   #609
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Skating issues. I don’t think the flames need another slow center
He's a winger. Some guys say his skating is vastly improved this year as well. Could be a guy who is suffering from underscouting. He was 5th overall in the Q draft.
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Old 05-28-2021, 12:45 PM   #610
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I'm calling it!!! Flames win the 2nd pick
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My FC draft du jour.

IMO sillinger > Mctavish. Sillinger has outperformed McTavish at every level they've played together. Had more than a ppg in the WHL last year, D-1.

Someone like Nadeau is very interesting prospect later too. Large RHS guy who can put up points.
Um, sign me up for reals for a kid named Savage Red to be the franchise player.

Yes please!

Edit: Now I realise this kids name is actually Red Savage. And while i am cringing, I am still in.
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Old 05-28-2021, 03:26 PM   #612
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Sandman - where do you project Scott Morrow to be drafted?

Numbers and supposed mobility make him a perfect second round candidate for the Flames unless you project he is a late first round option?
I see him going in the middle of the second, only because he’s never been seen at a high level of hockey, save for two games in the USHL. Easily the best player in the Prep School circuit, with a tantalizing mix of size, speed, and smarts.
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Um, sign me up for reals for a kid named Savage Red to be the franchise player.

Yes please!

Edit: Now I realise this kids name is actually Red Savage. And while i am cringing, I am still in.
His full name is Redmond if it makes you feel better.
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My FC mock draft for the flames:
https://nhlentrydraft.com/mock-draft/57159

1. Aatu Raty (C)
2. Oliver Kapanen (C)
3. Ilya Safonov (C)
3. Robert Orr (RW)
4. William Trudeau (D)
5. Nikolai Hakala (C)
6. Charles Savoie (LW)

Hakala intrigues me as a late pick. 6'6 220 Center 24 points U20 for Ilves. My mock is very center heavy.
Not bad production in the U20-second on his team.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:35 PM   #615
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A nice little breakdown of Chaz Lucius.

Difference between Lucius and Raty is that Lucius is a driver of the middle of the ice by natural instinct. Theres no thinking he just gets to the slot or the middle of the ice in transition by default.

I think his skating is fine, especially considering this is all post knee injury and recovery.

But what I like the most about Lucius is his shot and how he gets it off any way he can. One timer, hands and elbows in tight, it just rockets off his stick no matter what.

Anyway, he's 2nd on my wishlist for CGY behind Johnson. And ahead of 3rd place Raty.
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RW Prokhor Poltapov, 5'11"174lbs (Krasniya Armiya Moskva,MHL): 25g/27a/52pts, 30PIM in 61 games-1st on the team, 12th in the league. His big coming out party was the U-18's, scoring 7pts in 7 games, and showing up on many a highlight reel for his breakaways, solo efforts deking out D-men, and Datsukian stickhandling moves. Many have mentioned that he would have had better numbers in Russia if he didn't struggle early on in the season-he was trying to do too much himself, and making too many errors and turnovers.

Despite his size, he plays a power-forward style that I must say, is very fun to watch. I wasn't impressed with him when I watched the Russians play in the U-18's-didn't like his skating, turnovers, or apparent selfishness, but the film I'm watching tonight is pretty enlightening. He's very physical, and he'll go around, or through, an opponent. The footage I watched tonight contained quite a few plays of Poltapov pursuing a loose puck into the corner, or behind the net, and absolutely bowling over his opponent. He obviously has a strong upper body, a high motor, and will battle in any of the greasy areas. He plays with a ton of confidence, and wants the puck on his stick-he's not afraid of pressure when unleashing his vast arsenal of 1-on-1 moves, or whipping a wicked wrister. Stickhandling is a forte, and his dekes, and toe drags make him very unpredictable to defend. He's smart and skilled under duress, and defenders in Russia are always aware of his presence. When not hounding the puck, he's scanning for open ice.

Polt has a more developed two-way game than most of his Russian contemporaries. Uses his positioning, smarts, and physicality to disrupt the attack. Has excellent reach for the poke check. Can back defenses up coming back the other way through transtion, likes to carry the puck through the neutral zone with speed. He can stickhandle in a phone booth (no kidding!), in traffic, the net-front, and is an excellent playmaker. Quick release, with a good shot, and just creates opportunity after opportunity.

I've seen his skating described as "explosive", but that's sadly not the truth-watch him and tell me I'm wrong. His mechanics look ok, a bit choppy, and he has good edges to turn, and change direction quickly, plus-he can shift gears instantaneously. Pretty solid on his skates, and hard to knock of the puck. Every other aspect needs work-his first-step, top speed, and acceleration on the forecheck. Despite his shortcomings, he still manages to push pace, and drive play.

One article I read compared him to Blake Coleman-they are roughly the same size, and play a feisty power forward game. This kid easily has first-round talent, and may indeed be taken in the late stages of that round, but his skating might push him into the second.

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LW Owen Pederson, 6'3"205 (Winnipeg, WHL): Here's a guy I know next to nothing about. He was skipped over in last year's draft, but I read that he's got size and can really skate, so I decided to look into him. In 2019-20, he had 28g/22a/50pts/16PIMs in 61 games-his ppg was 7th amongst draft eligible WHLers, and his 28g was second on the team. This year, he has 13g/18a/31pts in 24 games. I watched a little film (what little I could find), and he is indeed, a good skater with good hands. Many say he wasn't drafted because he's just a passenger on a line with Peyton Krebs and Connor McClennon, and that he has a rather vanilla skillset, isn't physical, and isn't mean enough.

Others say that he's improved this year, that he has good hands and intelligence. It's a fact that he's trusted by the coaching staff on the PK and the PP-so he must have a little something. Another said that he's able to play against any defensive players that try to stop him, and that he always finds open ice to put himself in a position to score. One scouts notes about Pederson after he watched him play read,"Competed in the tough areas of the ice all game long. Excellent net front presence. Good and calm in the slot." That's really all I know about him.

There's players by the hundreds that get left out of the draft every year, and many of them put up great numbers, but they just will never be NHLers. This guy might be one of those kids (he wasn't drafted for a reason), or a team might take a chance on him in the later rounds of the draft...
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Mike Mikeson (C, 4'9", 110 lbs). Mike is a small shifty center who can score at will (2 g, 4 points in 63 games 2021). Whoever drafts Mike will be getting a 30 year player, surefire hall of famer who will transform the game. His current club, the Smithers Loggers (BCHL) play him on the third line as a overager. Some draft mocks have him 7th round, won't be surprised to see him go 2nd overall.
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Mike Mikeson (C, 4'9", 110 lbs). Mike is a small shifty center who can score at will (2 g, 4 points in 63 games 2021). Whoever drafts Mike will be getting a 30 year player, surefire hall of famer who will transform the game. His current club, the Smithers Loggers (BCHL) play him on the third line as a overager. Some draft mocks have him 7th round, won't be surprised to see him go 2nd overall.
This whole post...4’9”? Third line bchl? 2nd overall?
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Sandman, have you done a write up on Connor Roulette? Seems like a Tod Button type.

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