[GT] Phillips makes his debut. CGY/VAN

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by 868904

I'm talking about putting up these points in these meaningless games. It's shinny hockey out there.

I'm really not sure what Tkachuk is going forward. All I know is that his next contract scares me.

Sure, but then everyone should be putting up numbers. They aren't.

The contract situation is a concern, but only because of $$.

As a player though, he will do what he has always done. for more than the abberation the first half of this season was.

It boggles me how much people have turned on this guy in such a short time.

He is a great NHL player. Top 50 in the entire league offensively since he entered, 6th among LW's and that is with this anchor of a season included.


Then add in all the intangibles. Dude is upper tier.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

960 also talked about the Flames making a side deal to protect Gio potentially, because of his play down the stretch with Tanev.

Are we really going to give up assets to make sure we retain a 38 year old? I hope not.

The only way I get behind that is if it means they take Lucic. I will be furious if they pay futures so the Kraken can take Kylington

[InternationalVillager]

Looks like Flames are going to draft 13th. Can't get anything right. #### off.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Looks like Flames are going to draft 13th. Can't get anything right. #### off.

12th unless Chicago, NY or Philly wins the lottery.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

12th unless Chicago, NY or Philly wins the lottery.

You're forgetting Seattle.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

You're forgetting Seattle.

Arizona's pick is forfeited.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The only way I get behind that is if it means they take Lucic. I will be furious if they pay futures so the Kraken can take Kylington

Yeah, it is absolutely to the team's benefit moving forward that the Kraken take Giordano or Lucic.

Shedding expensive post-apex contracts even if they still are providing some value is how you give yourself the best chance to construct a good team in 3-5 years. That 5-6 million of flexibility pays dividends.

Giordano or Lucic playing out their contacts will absolutely hamper the team cap-wise into their final seasons.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

12th unless Chicago, NY or Philly wins the lottery.

Since they could only move up 10 spots, the best they can get is 3rd. They will presumably be 13th in respect to the lottery draw.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Since they could only move up 10 spots, the best they can get is 3rd. They will presumably be 13th in respect to the lottery draw.

Yes 13th. But I don’t think that 10 spot rule applies until next year.

[InternationalVillager]

As a management group - why would you not just scratch all your top players? What sense does any of this make? What ####ing pride are these clowns playing for? They should have played for it a month ago.

Fire everyone.

[Canada 02]

for all of you who want to tank, you think just like Eric Francis.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Yes 13th. But I don’t think that 10 spot rule applies until next year.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-draft-l...21/c-322838154


Correct. They can still draft 1st or 2nd. Only new rule for this year is the reduction from 3 lottery picks to 2.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Since they could only move up 10 spots, the best they can get is 3rd. They will presumably be 13th in respect to the lottery draw.

I thought that rule doesn't go into effect until 2022?

[868904]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Sure, but then everyone should be putting up numbers. They aren't.

The contract situation is a concern, but only because of $$.

As a player though, he will do what he has always done. for more than the abberation the first half of this season was.

It boggles me how much people have turned on this guy in such a short time.

He is a great NHL player. Top 50 in the entire league offensively since he entered, 6th among LW's and that is with this anchor of a season included.


Then add in all the intangibles. Dude is upper tier.

I'm more concerned that the fire seems to be gone. Ever since the Muzzin incident, the scrums, the agitation is gone.

The puck skills I'm not worried about.

I didn't turn on him, because even after last season, his contract worried me. I've always been concerned with his skating and committing an $8 million plus long term contract to a guy who can't skate.

He could still evolve into Mark Stone so if he can pick up his defensive game, then that big contract won't be that bad. But I want to see more from him. I need to see that ####disturber back and I need to see the improvement on the defensive side before I'd want to commit to a big contract.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

for all of you who want to tank, you think just like Eric Francis.

Then Francis and I can agree on something for once.

Was your point intenting to be an insult?
Oooo you think lile Eric Francis, haha youre stupid.


Yeah okay. Carry on being a fan of perpetual mediorcrity then.

Its not the wins, its the pride that counts!

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

As a management group - why would you not just scratch all your top players? What sense does any of this make? What ####ing pride are these clowns playing for? They should have played for it a month ago.

Fire everyone.

Are you being serious?

[McG]

Treliving calling the flames “a corps……uhhh carcass” and says investigation starts tomorrow about what went wrong.

Shouldn’t this have been underway for months at least including prior to the trade deadline? I lose faith in this GM the more I hear him speak.

I guess it’s the process.

[Toonage]

It is noteworthy that he has come out of hiding. Despite how you feel about him (you are not a fan I gather, I have soured as well) it gives the impression he is sticking around

[flames_fan_down_under]

A full forensic audit!? I wonder what clues they will uncover!

[Reggie Dunlop]

Mackey!

First NHL Goal!