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View Poll Results: What will happen to Brad Treliving after the end of the season?
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He should and will be fired
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167 |
17.06% |
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He should be fired, but will continue as the Flames GM
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277 |
28.29% |
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He should not and will not be fired
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288 |
29.42% |
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He should not but will be fired
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27 |
2.76% |
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Unsure if he should be, but he will be fired
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3.78% |
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Unsure if he should be, but he will not be fired
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18.69% |
05-18-2021, 07:22 AM
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#3561
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Searching around for some Futa speculation
https://ringoffirecgy.com/2021/05/17...mpression=true
Speculating that Futa would be GM and Treliving is promoted to POHO
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05-18-2021, 07:37 AM
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#3562
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Franchise Player
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Just when I had come to terms that Tre would probably be back as gm ,Futas name pops up. Sign me up .
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05-18-2021, 07:39 AM
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#3563
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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Interesting.
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05-18-2021, 08:03 AM
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#3564
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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I would support this. Makes a lot of sense.
First you get the Sutter/Futa connection from LA and Treliving is still here to hand it off smoothly.
As mentioned on in this thread, Freidman has stated that a lot of groundwork has been laid for this upcoming off season. To me it has always seemed shortsighted to throw that away.
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05-18-2021, 08:04 AM
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#3565
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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Seems like part of the process.
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05-18-2021, 08:14 AM
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#3566
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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He and Sutter likely on the same page too
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05-18-2021, 08:14 AM
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#3567
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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I am fine with this as long as Treliving has no hand in daily hockey operations. Go take care of the arena stuff.
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05-18-2021, 08:23 AM
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#3568
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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Futa is intriguing but only the Flames would promote a GM who has been a failure to POHO.
Last edited by CGY12; 05-18-2021 at 08:26 AM.
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05-18-2021, 08:30 AM
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#3569
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
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Completely on board with this...I feel like a President and/or business role would suit Tre better at this point
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05-18-2021, 08:36 AM
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#3570
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Franchise Player
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I would think it's highly unlikely that Treliving gets promoted out of this. I can appreciate the reasoning behind giving him another year, but having him mentor a new GM? I can't buy that.
And I'd think there would be more experienced business people suited for the role of overseeing the business aspects of hockey ops. I don't know what would make Tre qualified to be dealing with new arena.
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05-18-2021, 08:42 AM
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#3571
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Franchise Player
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I can’t say I’d be overly happy with Treliving being promoted out of this. If a change is to happen, it should be more of a change over than promoting the existing guy to a position where he still has complete oversight. That feels like it would be very Oilers/Kevin Lowe’ish.
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05-18-2021, 09:12 AM
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#3572
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I would think it's highly unlikely that Treliving gets promoted out of this. I can appreciate the reasoning behind giving him another year, but having him mentor a new GM? I can't buy that.
And I'd think there would be more experienced business people suited for the role of overseeing the business aspects of hockey ops. I don't know what would make Tre qualified to be dealing with new arena.
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Yea I guess that's a good point...can we get both Futa and John Davidson? lol
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05-18-2021, 09:18 AM
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#3573
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#1 Goaltender
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Pretty sure Treliving is on the way out if Futa is coming in. Or they move Tre to the business side and remove him from all hockey operations.
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05-18-2021, 09:22 AM
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#3574
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan87
I am fine with this as long as Treliving has no hand in daily hockey operations. Go take care of the arena stuff.
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Pretty sure that Treliving job would be to handle that. It's literally in the job description. His job wouldn't be focused on arena stuff aside from the aspects that affect the players themselves.
Weird to be doing an Oilers move and failing upwards if this is was to happen though.
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05-18-2021, 09:26 AM
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#3575
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I would think it's highly unlikely that Treliving gets promoted out of this. I can appreciate the reasoning behind giving him another year, but having him mentor a new GM? I can't buy that.
And I'd think there would be more experienced business people suited for the role of overseeing the business aspects of hockey ops. I don't know what would make Tre qualified to be dealing with new arena.
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I can’t say I’d be overly happy with Treliving being promoted out of this. If a change is to happen, it should be more of a change over than promoting the existing guy to a position where he still has complete oversight. That feels like it would be very Oilers/Kevin Lowe’ish.
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Thing is, they’re paying him, they may feel like they should get something out of it.
Treliving did found a hockey league, and oversee a merger of that league, so presumably he’s good at organizational things.
POHO has always been a vague and undefined position to me. It seems like different teams treat it completely differently. In some, they are central to everything and in others they seem like figureheads. And it wouldn’t be the first time someone got fired upward into that spot.
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05-18-2021, 09:33 AM
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#3576
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Could be a good situation. If Treliving is still around in more of a business of hockey capacity with some oversight into things like contracts, he's got some skill in those areas. The person coming up with the vision for assembling the on ice product needs to change though. I'd be okay with this happening.
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05-18-2021, 09:43 AM
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#3577
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First Line Centre
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I’ve thought this was the plan for awhile now and frankly I don’t mind it.
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05-18-2021, 10:06 AM
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#3578
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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One thing we need to remember is the POHO job here in the past was strictly a hockey job and not the business side. I recall that was one of the reasons that Shanahan turned down the Flames role in the past. They wanted him to be the POHO and he wanted to add the business side to his scope but that was Ken King’s job. When Burke was hired he was strictly on the hockey side and King was on the business side.
John Bean was the guy who took over for King (RIP) and I believe is still in that role. If Treliving takes the POHO job (or Davidson for that matter) I do not believe we will see them take over anything on the business side. It does feel like Burke mostly was the mouthpiece for the Flames at luncheons and other business related events so perhaps that is what Treliving would do in addition to assisting in building the hockey team as Burke was involved in all hockey decisions as well?
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05-18-2021, 10:14 AM
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#3579
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Mike Futa as GM? I know his Minnesota moves got raked over the coals but in the long run they've looked better haven't they?
Hes a sloooooooowwwww burner.
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05-18-2021, 10:19 AM
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#3580
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Thing is, they’re paying him, they may feel like they should get something out of it.
Treliving did found a hockey league, and oversee a merger of that league, so presumably he’s good at organizational things.
POHO has always been a vague and undefined position to me. It seems like different teams treat it completely differently. In some, they are central to everything and in others they seem like figureheads. And it wouldn’t be the first time someone got fired upward into that spot.
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