Brad Treliving needs to go

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Has anyone outside of us fans mentioned anything about Treliving's future?

Someone on here posted that Eric Francis last week said Treliving being back is about 50/50.

It's Francis though, and hear say because I didn't hear myself.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Has anyone outside of us fans mentioned anything about Treliving's future?

Newp. I dont expect anything on that front until a couple weeks after the end of their season. If it happens at all. Which is more likely.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Newp. I dont expect anything on that front until a couple weeks after the end of their season. If it happens at all. Which is more likely.

So dumb. If you are firing the GM, then might as well bring the new guy right away.

As I said in an earlier post though, I am sure the Flames will continue to disappoint and will be stuck with a trash GM for another season.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by keenan87

So dumb. If you are firing the GM, then might as well bring the new guy right away.

As I said in an earlier post though, I am sure the Flames will continue to disappoint and will be stuck with a trash GM for another season.

Meh. Not sure how things will go. I'm sure ownership is going to review things. A lost season in year 1 of du.ping good money into goaltending, restructuring and dumping money into the goaltending department, 5th head coach ( which IMO has never happened to a GM and is usually a fireable offense),
Complete buckling of the core. Should add up to a firing of the leadership.

Alternatively all things during Covid may be written off. And will likely be chalked up to this covid era.

Maybe they give Tree the next season to right the ship. Then it's blow up time.

[Brick]

Hard to believe he is still employed by the Flames.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by keenan87

So dumb. If you are firing the GM, then might as well bring the new guy right away.

As I said in an earlier post though, I am sure the Flames will continue to disappoint and will be stuck with a trash GM for another season.

I think if they're planning on making multiple changes to the staff they might wait until the season is done. It's not like they can't start talking to candidates either if they do plan on letting him go.

[Manhattanboy]

4 games left Tre. 4 games.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Someone on here posted that Eric Francis last week said Treliving being back is about 50/50.

It's Francis though, and hear say because I didn't hear myself.

It's not hearsay that Francis said that as I heard the segment as well and he in fact did say it was 50/50 Treliving returns. I found that odd because he saves all his disdain for the players and rarely if ever criticizes the organization (likely to preserve his job) as he was defending Ward to the very end and has never said a bad thing about Treliving. I don't think he's much of an insider but he's probably heard something from an insider that Treliving's job security is tenuous.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Someone on here posted that Eric Francis last week said Treliving being back is about 50/50.

It's Francis though, and hear say because I didn't hear myself.

I heard it, it was on Fan960 awhile ago. I think it was more of his opinion when they were talking about the Flames

[The Original FFIV]

Lots of interesting names in the below article. If Brad is let go, would have to think sutter would have some input given he appears to have the ear of the owners. Still think Futa and Lombardi would make our shortlist but here’s some more names to bandy about.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/...mpression=true

[CliffFletcher]

I’m shocked at the number of people here who want Darryl Sutter to have more influence on this team, to the point of having a big say in off-season trades and even help select the next GM. For me, the buzz of 2004 had already worn off by 2007, and I was happy to see Sutter out the door in 2010. The fact so many here look back on that era as glory days and Sutter as a saviour is sad. But considering the enduring futility of this franchise, maybe it shouldn’t be surprising.

[Goriders]

Treliving probably will get the boot. Because he’s at the top and is ultimately accountable. But to be honest if I were him I doubt I would have done anything differently other than trying to move Monahan.

I honestly thought the flames would challenge for top spot in the division when they announced the Markstrom signing. I wasn’t wearing my rose colored glasses at the time.

The players deserve as much or more of the credit for the disaster that was the 2021 season. They are coach killers.

Not his fault, but his problem that the following didn’t perform:

- monahan
- gaudreau half season
- tkachuk
- anderson
- valimaki

If we’re really being honest I’d point the finger in their direction.

[The Cobra]

Sutter should not be the GM of this team, he is horrible at managing the cap etc.

He's the one that said "you can always trade a bad contract". Sure, likely to Sutter.

He's also the one who collected 20 goals scorers and bragged about it. Not seemingly understanding that usage is directly correlative to goal production.

As a coach I am willing to give him some rope because, what choice do we have? But it's possible that the new NHL has passed him by.

Now, the Flames record isn't really getting any better, but I do think the team is playing much better, just not getting the results. Maybe the results won't come but, again, what choice do we really have?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I’m shocked at the number of people here who want Darryl Sutter to have more influence on this team, to the point of having a big say in off-season trades and even help select the next GM. For me, the buzz of 2004 had already worn off by 2007, and I was happy to see Sutter out the door in 2010. The fact so many here look back on that era as glory days and Sutter as a saviour is sad. But considering the enduring futility of this franchise, maybe it shouldn’t be surprising.

Yeah I'm pretty terrified of the idea of Darryl having a say in personnel. I hope that ownership hired him to be the head coach only.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Sutter should not be the GM of this team, he is horrible at managing the cap etc.

He's the one that said "you can always trade a bad contract". Sure, likely to Sutter.

He's also the one who collected 20 goals scorers and bragged about it. Not seemingly understanding that usage is directly correlative to goal production.

As a coach I am willing to give him some rope because, what choice do we have? But it's possible that the new NHL has passed him by.

Now, the Flames record isn't really getting any better, but I do think the team is playing much better, just not getting the results. Maybe the results won't come but, again, what choice do we really have?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah I'm pretty terrified of the idea of Darryl having a say in personnel. I hope that ownership hired him to be the head coach only.

What worries me more is that Brent stepped down from the Rebels.

[MacFlame]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Treliving probably will get the boot. Because he’s at the top and is ultimately accountable. But to be honest if I were him I doubt I would have done anything differently other than trying to move Monahan.

I honestly thought the flames would challenge for top spot in the division when they announced the Markstrom signing. I wasn’t wearing my rose colored glasses at the time.

The players deserve as much or more of the credit for the disaster that was the 2021 season. They are coach killers.

Not his fault, but his problem that the following didn’t perform:

- monahan
- gaudreau half season
- tkachuk
- anderson
- valimaki

If we’re really being honest I’d point the finger in their direction.

I agree, but the problem with Monahan particularly was easy to spot two years ago and most certainly last year. Sutter has gotten the most out of him since taking over, but he can't possibly be relied upon as a number one centre any longer.

A team simply cannot compete when its number one centre is getting outplayed consistently by the opposition, something that the last two playoff appearances and all of last regular season told us would happen this year.

Treliving failed to address that this off season. Instead, he spent all his available cap space on a goalie, which is important, but not nearly as important as a number one centre for this group. Even if he could not obtain a true number one centre this past off season, I'd argue that acquiring another top 6 forward should have been a priority over a goaltender.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

What worries me more is that Brent stepped down from the Rebels.

Ha ha ha. Would be hilarious if Brent became the GM to Darryl head coach in a reversal of roles. Is it sad I would probably rather Brent be GM than Darryl? If he came on to assist Darryl on the bench I would see nothing wrong with that as I would like to see all the coaches turned over including the goaltending coaches.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Treliving probably will get the boot. Because he’s at the top and is ultimately accountable. But to be honest if I were him I doubt I would have done anything differently other than trying to move Monahan.

I honestly thought the flames would challenge for top spot in the division when they announced the Markstrom signing. I wasn’t wearing my rose colored glasses at the time.

The players deserve as much or more of the credit for the disaster that was the 2021 season. They are coach killers.

Not his fault, but his problem that the following didn’t perform:

- monahan
- gaudreau half season
- tkachuk
- anderson
- valimaki

If we’re really being honest I’d point the finger in their direction.

One thing Treliving is directly responsible for is the hiring of 3 straight garbage coaches. That is his responsibility and he failed 3 straight times. And it's not even a "fit" issue - its the fact that the 3 coaches he chose will NEVER be HCs in the NHL again. That is quite some feat.

[Toonage]

And of course with those awful hires he stunted the growth and development of numerous top end players drafted by the organization

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Treliving probably will get the boot. Because he’s at the top and is ultimately accountable. But to be honest if I were him I doubt I would have done anything differently other than trying to move Monahan.

I honestly thought the flames would challenge for top spot in the division when they announced the Markstrom signing. I wasn’t wearing my rose colored glasses at the time.

The players deserve as much or more of the credit for the disaster that was the 2021 season. They are coach killers.

Not his fault, but his problem that the following didn’t perform:

- monahan
- gaudreau half season
- tkachuk
- anderson
- valimaki

If we’re really being honest I’d point the finger in their direction.

Treliving probably won’t get the boot.

Said it before, but the Flames are just coming off a season with 0 gate or concession revenues. Treliving has two years left on his deal. I would be very surprised if the Flames cut ties with Treliving, paid his remaining salary and hired a replacement to pay as well.

Far more likely scenario is Treliving gets this offseason and next year to correct course. If the Flames miss the playoffs, or don’t show marked improvement, then the conversation become a lot more realistic in my mind.