2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Why not? LaFreniere had 21 points this year.

He had 1 point in his first 15 career games out of junior. I wouldn't read much into that.

Since then, he's had 20 points in his last 41 (with an average TOI of 13:39 - which is absurdly low for a high draft pick), and those 21 points have all come at even strength.

IMO Lafreniere isn't just going to be good, he's going to be elite once he starts getting powerplay time and first line icetime. If they want to acquire Eichel, Lafreniere is the guy they want on Eichel's wing, not Panarin.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If that team is offering the best return then absolutely. I've never understood the mentality of taking a worse deal just to keep a player from a rival team. As a GM the main goal should always be to worry about your own back yard first and foremost.

If it is far better than yes...but if its about equal no

especially with divisional playoffs

If they want to give up Fox+ (OMG that would be great) then go for it. Rangers would have the smash the offers from the west IMO

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

He had 1 point in his first 15 career games out of junior. I wouldn't read much into that.

Since then, he's had 20 points in his last 41 (with an average TOI of 13:39 - which is absurdly low for a high draft pick), and those 21 points have all come at even strength.

IMO Lafreniere isn't just going to be good, he's going to be elite once he starts getting powerplay time and first line icetime. If they want to acquire Eichel, Lafreniere is the guy they want on Eichel's wing, not Panarin.

And he's 9 million $ cheaper then Eichel (Closer to 7 in Laf plays at a star level)

Why not keep Laf and just spent 7 million in Free Agency instead of trading for Eichel.

But I also don't think Eichel is a top 15 player in this league, and think NYR laugh Buffalo off the phone when his name comes up.

"You want us to give you our cost controlled, #1 overall pick, for a guy who scored 2 goals and is coming off a bad injury, and have never shown he can elevate a team? Where do we sign up!"

[SuperMatt18]

Lafreniere was being talked about as an elite point producing play his whole junior career, compared to Crosby at times.

He won't live up to that hype, but he's still going to be an elite top line forward most likely.

I wouldn't trade that for Eichel at this point.

[dino7c]

2 goals but 18 points in 21 games

over a ppg last season

all on a terrible team...rumors were they offered the pick for Eichel last summer I think it takes him or fox if they actually want to get it done. Rangers would have to blow them away

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 goals but 18 points in 21 games

over a ppg last season

all on a terrible team...rumors were they offered the pick for Eichel last summer I think it takes him or fox if they actually want to get it done. Rangers would have to blow them away

I think Rangers offer Kakko, 1st's, and parts.

And I agree - I don't think Buff takes it

One thing I find funny - When people mention JG had a terrible winger people always respond "Shouldn't an elite player not need great linemates" but when Eichel is hot garbage and leads his team to another missed playoffs as their captain and unquestionable elite player - Who the team keeps acquiring players for him to play with - Its "He's on a terrible team"

Buffalo has played better since Eichel got hurt.....

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I think Rangers offer Kakko, 1st's, and parts.

And I agree - I don't think Buff takes it

One thing I find funny - When people mention JG had a terrible winger people always respond "Shouldn't an elite player not need great linemates" but when Eichel is hot garbage and leads his team to another missed playoffs as their captain and unquestionable elite player - Who the team keeps acquiring players for him to play with - Its "He's on a terrible team"

Buffalo has played better since Eichel got hurt.....

The answer, as with many things in life, is complicated.

I know this much. Neither Jack Eichel or Johnny Gaudreau suck at hockey. They are both elite NHL forwards; their respective organizations failing them doesn’t diminish what they bring to a team.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I think Rangers offer Kakko, 1st's, and parts.

And I agree - I don't think Buff takes it

One thing I find funny - When people mention JG had a terrible winger people always respond "Shouldn't an elite player not need great linemates" but when Eichel is hot garbage and leads his team to another missed playoffs as their captain and unquestionable elite player - Who the team keeps acquiring players for him to play with - Its "He's on a terrible team"

Buffalo has played better since Eichel got hurt.....

Buffalo has played better since they got rid of Krueger. And Eichel had Hart votes a few years back, so he can elevate a team, but we’re talking about the Sabres here.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I think Rangers offer Kakko, 1st's, and parts.

Rick Carpiniello believes Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere to be untouchables. Now if you're Buffalo and can't have even one of those 3 in a return, do you even bother picking up the phone?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Rick Carpiniello believes Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere to be untouchables. Now if you're Buffalo and can't have even one of those 3 in a return, do you even bother picking up the phone?

Fox is definitely an untouchable, but you have to make Kakko or Lafreniere expendable if you’re going for another untouchable asset.

[Vinny01]

Insider trading had Lebrun stating the Rangers and Wild as suitors and Serivali mentioned the Kings have strong interest.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Insider trading had Lebrun stating the Rangers and Wild as suitors and Serivali mentioned the Kings have strong interest.

The Kings have good prospect assets but I just don’t see what they think their team is supposed to be after getting Eichel. They’d have prime age Eichel, a decent young goalie but also a fading expensive one, a few old stars and a few young kids (not their best ones after the trade).

[Roof-Daddy]

Good lord how beautiful would it be if the Rangers traded for Eichel and sent Adam dumbass Fox to Buffalo as part of the return. Unlikely, but they still have Trouba on the right side and Lundqvist coming over from Sweden too.

[Sandman]

The Rangers could still offer a fairly competitive package without giving up the big three. Probably not enough to beat some other teams, but they still have some good, young pieces like Chytil, Kravtsov, K'Andre Miller will be a star one day....

Don't think they would want to make a deal with a team as close as Buffalo though.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Rick Carpiniello believes Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere to be untouchables. Now if you're Buffalo and can't have even one of those 3 in a return, do you even bother picking up the phone?

I hope he is correct. If they are not including one of those 3 that gives Calgary a better chance of having a competitive offer.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The Rangers could still offer a fairly competitive package without giving up the big three. Probably not enough to beat some other teams, but they still have some good, young pieces like Chytil, Kravtsov, K'Andre Miller will be a star one day....

Don't think they would want to make a deal with a team as close as Buffalo though.

They aren't in the same division, and conferences may not really exist moving forward.

Even if they sent Kakko and he turned into Jagr, I don't think it would be a big deal to Rangers fans, or Dolan for that matter.

[Gordies Elbow]

I could see Seattle with a big offer for Eichel.

Eichel + taking on Skinner's contract for their 1st plus?

Buffalo clears 19m in cap plus gets the ~3rd pick in the 2021 draft.

Seattle has the cap room to make this type of deal, and it starts the franchise off with a franchise center.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Gordies Elbow

I could see Seattle with a big offer for Eichel.

Eichel + taking on Skinner's contract for their 1st plus?

Buffalo clears 19m in cap plus gets the ~3rd pick in the 2021 draft.

Seattle has the cap room to make this type of deal, and it starts the franchise off with a franchise center.

That Skinner contract is so bad. Can't see a team taking it on to get Eichel.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Rick Carpiniello believes Fox, Kakko and Lafreniere to be untouchables. Now if you're Buffalo and can't have even one of those 3 in a return, do you even bother picking up the phone?

Nope.

[powderjunkie]

The Skinner contract has had zero impact on BUF becoming competitive. They haven't had good enough players to be a cap team. They had the room to spend 8M on Hall this year.

Equipment allergy or another issue could always pop up.