Poll Request: Should the Flames hire Davidson and Gorton this off-season?

[TOfan]

I would support JD coming in, no question.

The question, though, is what is JD’s appetite to step back into a POHO’s role, and is Calgary on his list? He is going to have options. Not only that, apparently he has 3 years left on his deal at $5M/year. If the Rangers owe him that, which seems common for NHL contracts, what are the Flames going to pay him? I would be shocked if they met that price.

Seems like a great idea, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

[browna]

Davidson if they can. Bean was to run the business side of the CSEC and navigate the details on the new arena. He's taken a larger role as KK' s health declined and then passed.

Davidson has ties to Calgary and I can see the intrigue of being in a Canadian market for him, but, there are probably many options for him, so even if the Flames want him, they won't open the vault as they did for Burke. Burke's role here was to immediately reestablish the organization's reputation in the league after the post Darryl Sutter era sunk it into the toilet.

This team does need some hockey operations guidence and a strong decision maker in a role like that.

[Inferno]

I don't know much about Gorton but I would be interested in bringing in Davidson.

[Classic_Sniper]

Undecided.

Not because I think Treliving has done a miraculous job or something, but because this team is at a major crossroads. Treliving and Sutter contractually have a couple more years left remaining after this season I believe and I definitely wouldn’t want Brad at the helm of another complete rebuild because he messed up the last one badly. But if he was to correct his mistakes in the offseason and build a contending team next season, then he could probably keep his job.

But if there’s absolutely no way to salvage this roster and make the necessary upgrades to take them to the next level, then 100% torch it to the ground and start over with a new GM and president.

[kyuss275]

I would love Davidson as president. That said it’s not going to happen. Maybe if we went into a rebuild but I doubt that happens. My gut tells me Tre stays on and Sutter has major influence on what next seasons roster looks like.

[cannon7]

Wonder if Gorton would still be GM if Kakko and Lafreniere were further along...

[Steve Bozek]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

That would be such an Oilers thing to do.

And I love me some Conroy - I met him at a player/fan skate when he was a Fredericton Canadian. He’s a gem, and I’m sure it’s not his fault this group is where it is.

But I don’t for a second think shouldn’t get this job.

Why do you think he's not qualified? He's been an assistant for a long time - are there reasons for doubting his competence?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I would support JD coming in, no question.

The question, though, is what is JD’s appetite to step back into a POHO’s role, and is Calgary on his list? He is going to have options. Not only that, apparently he has 3 years left on his deal at $5M/year. If the Rangers owe him that, which seems common for NHL contracts, what are the Flames going to pay him? I would be shocked if they met that price.

Seems like a great idea, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

I don't know if it is possible, but if the Flames wanted Davdson and he was also up for it, could the Flames and Rangers negotiate some kind of agreement where the Rangers buy him out at a certain fraction and then he signs with the Flames for less money?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Steve Bozek

Why do you think he's not qualified? He's been an assistant for a long time - are there reasons for doubting his competence?

Because he's part of the management group that has made the decisions that are why people want the GM replaced.

One would have to believe that he had a different view on those decisions and was simply ignored.
Otherwise why hire someone who has been part of the reasons you want a GM fired?

[neo45]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Not trying to discredit Gorton’s work but he was aided by winning the draft lottery twice, getting a Norris caliber defenceman only wanting to sign with his team, and one of the top 10 NHL scorers wanting to sign with him.

How about his work where he essentially built the Bruins juggernaut in a two week period?

Drafted Kessel, Lucic, and Marchand, fleeced the Leafs for Rask and then signed Chara to the best free agent deal in history

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I'm on board with hiring Gorton. He's got a good track record overall. Treliving never really had any sustained success in his NHL jobs, and I think we're seeing why now.

I'm also on board with Lombardi because of his relationship with Sutter. They obviously know how to build a good team in combination.

Davidson has been around so long and has usually improved any organization he's been a part of, but I find POHO job descriptions so vague that I don't know how to evaluate it properly. Couldn't be worse than what we currently have. I'll say that.

I think the franchise needs to clean house and start again with some new voices. Whoever that is, I'll give them some rope for a year or two before I pull out the guillotine again.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by Steve Bozek

Why do you think he's not qualified? He's been an assistant for a long time - are there reasons for doubting his competence?

That front office needs a wipeout. The Gm and all his AGM’s nothing against Conroy but like Jiri said he has his hands in whatever Treliving does.

If I was bringing in new people it would be Davidson and Lombardi. Gorton if Lombardi said no.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't know if it is possible, but if the Flames wanted Davdson and he was also up for it, could the Flames and Rangers negotiate some kind of agreement where the Rangers buy him out at a certain fraction and then he signs with the Flames for less money?

Probably. that’s a good question. If the Rangers picked up a third, or so, and the Flames picked up rest to make him whole, that might be a way make it work.

[Aarongavey]

Gorton would be a good pickup for the Flames. He did benefit from having 8 first round picks in the last 4 years. Having first round picks in that quantity would be a different approach for the Flames.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

That would be such an Oilers thing to do.

And I love me some Conroy - I met him at a player/fan skate when he was a Fredericton Canadian. He’s a gem, and I’m sure it’s not his fault this group is where it is.

But I don’t for a second think shouldn’t get this job.

I am not saying it's a good idea, it is a Flames like move though.

[WCW Nitro]

I wouldn't mind Tallon, he built the Very good Panthers team of today

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

I wouldn't mind Tallon, he built the Very good Panthers team of today

Incorrect.

The only thing he really did well was sign Ekblad, Barkov and Huberdeau to extremely valuable contracts. He was really outdated in his approach to team building and made lots of bad decisions along the way. They literally had to clean house on their forward group before coming into this year. The Bobrovsky contract alone should be an offense that bans him from an NHL front office for his lifetime.

Bill Zito has been making great move after great move since coming in. This team is all him.

[Number 39]

Ive said it before but my gut tells me if Tree is fired Maloney will take over. Its so Flames in terms of the way they do things.

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

If Tre is booted Conroy is more than likely to take the reigns.

... the reins.

[Manhattanboy]

Sure why not.