[News] Lucic has agreed to waive his NMC for the expansion draft

[GreenLantern2814]

Based on his play, Lucic is worth protecting more than a lot of guys on the roster, including some who will be protected.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Based on his play, Lucic is worth protecting more than a lot of guys on the roster, including some who will be protected.

Agreed based on his play but his age and cap hit make him fully exposable.

[transplant99]

I was responding to this

I assume the only reason he's leaving Backlund unprotected is because the team is required to expose 2 forwards who are signed for next season and who meet certain games played requirements.

If you're building the list using today's roster situation (assuming the Flames won't sign someone or otherwise acquire someone who meets that requirement prior to the draft), Backlund and Lucic are the logical players to expose who meet the required criteria.

Presumably, they will sign one of the pending UFA/RFA forwards who meet the games played requirement prior to the draft, which will allow them to protect Backlund, but until they do that, Backlund is most-likely to be exposed.



I'm not sure why he picked Gawdin to be the extra protected player rather than Phillips, but it's likely moot, so he probably just picked a name out of a hat.

Either way its likely BT had this figured out long ago and nothing has really changed in that regard.

[OILFAN #81]

If Giordano is exposed, I could see Seattle taking him. Not obviously because of the long term but at next year's trade deadline they could trade him to a playoff team for a pick and prospect. Good asset management for them in that case.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Just looked at the OP. Protecting Gawdin? My gawd no, that isn't necessary.

I see what you did.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Because I can’t even fill a protection list of current players to keep.

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Because I can’t even fill a protection list of current players to keep.

You can’t fill out a protection list, yet you also said you’d have to make a deal to protect some unprotected players?

Keep digging.


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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You can’t fill out a protection list, yet you also said you’d have to make a deal to protect some unprotected players?

Keep digging.


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Huh?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Seattle will want someone who wants to be there and that very likely isnt Gio.

Taking a 38 year old dman with no term who is in decline is a risk at best and a mistake at worst.

I suspect they may take a look at Parsons now that he is back and playing. He still has a hell of a pedigree and G is a spot that they will want a couple young guys developing.

Given Giordano's bounce back in recent weeks he'd be my pick.

Great leader, marketable player, low term, and potentially 1st/2nd round pick when flipped at next year's deadline.

And if Calgary is taking a step back next year, potentially a reason why they should protect him.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Huh?

Read your initial post.


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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Read your initial post.


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Why? You didn’t.

[Macho0978]

I would think if the Flames were to trade backlund he would snag a better prospect than Gawdin. I get everyone wants a rebuild but still value having some good players to play with our prospects. Our current roster is near the bottom with all our players so not sure why we are running everyone out of town at once

What’s the minimum salary Seattle needs to select in draft? If Gio is exposed and so is gawdin they might take Gio to help with that minimum requirement and select better prospects available from other teams

Phillips may be more likely to be selected and might be worth protecting over backlund. But who knows we still have yet to pull the plug on this season and give these guys a crack

[Vinny01]

Gio going to Seattle is easily justified by the organization. If that happens and they move Monahan and Gaudreau I will be pretty excited for the next era of Flames hockey. I like all 3 players but those 3 and Backlund are the core of the post Iginla Flames and the core that hasn’t gotten it done.

This would be the easiest way to move on from Gio and not have it spun as he or the organization wanting a change.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Buff

I remember this:

Treliving (on Lucic's NMC for Expansion): It's not an issue
Flames Fans: We have to protect Lucic, we're screwed!

I remember nobody being able to confirm it for about 1000 pages...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

If Giordano is exposed, I could see Seattle taking him. Not obviously because of the long term but at next year's trade deadline they could trade him to a playoff team for a pick and prospect. Good asset management for them in that case.

Yeah. I feel there's a good chance of this happening. If Backlund is exposed he may be compelling as well but I'm not sure that will happen.

[Poe969]

I would rather they take Backlund, trade Johnny and Monahan in the off season then trade Gio at the deadline.I'm honestly really open to the idea of moving Tkachuck as well. Lindholm is the only forward I really keep unless a great offer comes accross.

The team is junk, losing a player from this roster isn't going to hurt as much as people think. I just think some fans like the players more than the team.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So its gonna be hard to sign anyone in order to fill the quotas of what needs to be available if no one is an RFa/UFA until after the expansion draft...no?

You don't have to wait until free agency to re-sign one of your own players (or they could acquire another team's pending free agent and sign him).

Ryan, Leivo, Simon, and Nordstrom all meet the exposure requirement for games played. Ritchie is currently 6 games shy of the requirement, and he will also likely reach that mark before the end of the season. If any of them are signed to at least a one-year extension prior to the expansion draft, he would meet the exposure requirement and the Flames wouldn't need to expose Backlund.


Right now, the Flames have three options for meeting the forward exposure requirement (assuming Lucic will take one of the two spots):

1. Expose Backlund
2. Sign one of Ryan, Ritchie, Leivo, Simon, or Nordstrom to a 2021-22 contract (or trade for another team's pending UFA/RFA and sign him), and leave him exposed in the expansion draft
3. Trade for a player who is under contract for 2021-22 who meets the games played requirement and leave him exposed

They have to do one of those three things prior to the expansion draft.

[dino7c]

I would rather be the ones trading Gio for a first at the deadline than losing him for nothing.

I also think his decline is greatly exaggerated.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Given Giordano's bounce back in recent weeks he'd be my pick.

Great leader, marketable player, low term, and potentially 1st/2nd round pick when flipped at next year's deadline.

And if Calgary is taking a step back next year, potentially a reason why they should protect him.

Possibly and that may be the way the Flames and/or Seattle see things.

I doubt he wants to move though. And it would not be a big surprise if his agent was to "suggest" to Ron Francis that retirement would be preferable to him and his family over moving to Seattle for a few months only to be traded again at the deadline.

On top of which...i dont believe for a second that BT and Sutter dont plan on being anything but a playoff team next year. Keeping Gio will be a big part of that in their eyes im guessing.

May not be whats best long term or what some fans want, and cetainly i understand that, but from the teams viewpoint and with Sutters hiring, no question in my mind thats what they are planning on.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by getbak

You don't have to wait until free agency to re-sign one of your own players (or they could acquire another team's pending free agent and sign him).

Ryan, Leivo, Simon, and Nordstrom all meet the exposure requirement for games played. Ritchie is currently 6 games shy of the requirement, and he will also likely reach that mark before the end of the season. If any of them are signed to at least a one-year extension prior to the expansion draft, he would meet the exposure requirement and the Flames wouldn't need to expose Backlund.


Right now, the Flames have three options for meeting the forward exposure requirement (assuming Lucic will take one of the two spots):

1. Expose Backlund
2. Sign one of Ryan, Ritchie, Leivo, Simon, or Nordstrom to a 2021-22 contract (or trade for another team's pending UFA/RFA and sign him), and leave him exposed in the expansion draft
3. Trade for a player who is under contract for 2021-22 who meets the games played requirement and leave him exposed

They have to do one of those three things prior to the expansion draft.

I would not be surprised if they signed Ritchie

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by getbak

Right now, the Flames have three options for meeting the forward exposure requirement (assuming Lucic will take one of the two spots):

1. Expose Backlund
2. Sign one of Ryan, Ritchie, Leivo, Simon, or Nordstrom (or trade for another team's pending UFA/RFA and sign him) to a 2021-22 contract, and leave him exposed in the expansion draft
3. Trade for a player who is under contract for 2021-22 who meets the games played requirement and leave him exposed

They have to do one of those three things prior to the expansion draft.

There may also be a few UFAs forwards floating around right now who didn’t get a contract but who qualify. Grabner, Hainsey, etc.