[News] Lucic has agreed to waive his NMC for the expansion draft

[Vinny01]

Lucic has been as good as we can expect this season and has shown he is still a top 9 forward. I don’t think he is good enough that Seattle takes him but wouldn’t that be something?!?

Oiler fans would be furious to see them stuck with Neal while the Flames escape the last 2 years of the Lucic deal.

Right now Lucic and Gio are likely being exposed. I did say when the co tract was signed that I would be okay if Tanev had a great season and we could move on but that was before the team sucked and Tanev played well. I wouldn’t be mad if they exposed Tanev more-so I would be pissed they didn’t cash in on his season at the deadline.

I will be super pissed if Treliving ends up paying a third so Gio is not taken and they take a small contract like Kylington. If we pay the Oilers 3rd for them to take Lucic I am fine with that. I am also fine with having Lucic as a part of the team for the next 2 years

[getbak]

I assume the only reason he's leaving Backlund unprotected is because the team is required to expose 2 forwards who are signed for next season and who meet certain games played requirements.

If you're building the list using today's roster situation (assuming the Flames won't sign someone or otherwise acquire someone who meets that requirement prior to the draft), Backlund and Lucic are the logical players to expose who meet the required criteria.

Presumably, they will sign one of the pending UFA/RFA forwards who meet the games played requirement prior to the draft, which will allow them to protect Backlund, but until they do that, Backlund is most-likely to be exposed.



I'm not sure why he picked Gawdin to be the extra protected player rather than Phillips, but it's likely moot, so he probably just picked a name out of a hat.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by transplant99

They will.

He wont be selected though.

Who do they take then?

Gio is a top 4 D that likely gets Seattle a decent haul at the deadline when they eat 50% of his contract. Kylington is the only guy I can see and even then he is 25 next year and not a full time NHLer

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by getbak

I assume the only reason he's leaving Backlund unprotected is because the team is required to expose 2 forwards who are signed for next season and who meet certain games played requirements.

If you're building the list using today's roster situation (assuming the Flames won't sign someone or otherwise acquire someone who meets that requirement prior to the draft), Backlund and Lucic are the logical players to expose who meet the required criteria.

Presumably, they will sign one of the pending UFA/RFA forwards who meet the games played requirement prior to the draft, which will allow them to protect Backlund, but until they do that, Backlund is most-likely to be exposed.

I'm not sure why he picked Gawdin to be the extra protected player rather than Phillips, but it's likely moot, so he probably just picked a name out of a hat.

Has it been announced when players become UFA/RFA this year?

Or are they still going with July 1....which seems to make no sense with the draft yet to be held at that time.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Who do they take then?

Gio is a top 4 D that likely gets Seattle a decent haul at the deadline when they eat 50% of his contract. Kylington is the only guy I can see and even then he is 25 next year and not a full time NHLer

Welcome to a typical expansion draft Seattle.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

After this year Lucic would be #1 on my protection list. Would have to make a deal though to not have to leave an asset exposed.

Why protect a guy that has zero chance of being picked plus negative trade value vs. much better players with lots of trade value who would get picked?

Which in layman's terms means "Huh????"

[FlamesAddiction]

Yeah, the only issue with Lucic is cap hit, and that number only matters if the team is up against the cap. It shouldn't be an issue for Seattle for the duration of Lucic's remaining contract.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Who do they take then?

Gio is a top 4 D that likely gets Seattle a decent haul at the deadline when they eat 50% of his contract. Kylington is the only guy I can see and even then he is 25 next year and not a full time NHLer

Seattle will want someone who wants to be there and that very likely isnt Gio.

Taking a 38 year old dman with no term who is in decline is a risk at best and a mistake at worst.

I suspect they may take a look at Parsons now that he is back and playing. He still has a hell of a pedigree and G is a spot that they will want a couple young guys developing.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Seattle will want someone who wants to be there and that very likely isnt Gio.

Taking a 38 year old dman with no term who is in decline is a risk at best and a mistake at worst.

I suspect they may take a look at Parsons now that he is back and playing. He still has a hell of a pedigree and G is a spot that they will want a couple young guys developing.

This is a good guess. LV took a ton of young goalies. And then ended up running with the old guy.

[OldDutch]

I think odds are not in favor, but for a new club a heart and soul guy like Lucic is a good bet. I think he still has that rep as a mean SOB, and a guy fans would like to see on their team. Good for marketing and Lucic still has some skill.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Has it been announced when players become UFA/RFA this year?

Or are they still going with July 1....which seems to make no sense with the draft yet to be held at that time.

As originally announced...

• July 21: NHL Expansion Draft (Seattle)
• July 23-24: 2021 NHL Draft
• July 28: Free agency opens (12 p.m. ET)

With the delays that have pushed back the end of the regular season, it's possible these dates will also get pushed back.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by getbak

As originally announced...

• July 21: NHL Expansion Draft (Seattle)
• July 23-24: 2021 NHL Draft
• July 28: Free agency opens (12 p.m. ET)

With the delays that have pushed back the end of the regular season, it's possible these dates will also get pushed back.

So its gonna be hard to sign anyone in order to fill the quotas of what needs to be available if no one is an RFa/UFA until after the expansion draft...no?

[1qqaaz]

I love Lucic.

[Strange Brew]

If Lucic is picked, I assume Seattle only on the hook for Calgary's share of his cap hit? Only two years left and if you're looking for one leader type, he might be worth a consideration.

Really depends on who all is available and how they build out the rest of their roster. They have to take a certain amount of salary in the draft. It's not as totally preposterous as it would avve seemed a year or two age.

[Strange Brew]

Just looked at the OP. Protecting Gawdin? My gawd no, that isn't necessary.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Why protect a guy that has zero chance of being picked plus negative trade value vs. much better players with lots of trade value who would get picked?

Which in layman's terms means "Huh????"

Because I can’t even fill a protection list of current players to keep.

[DoubleK]

As if I didn't need another reason to love Looch.

Guy brings it every single night.

And now he puts the team first.

The team needs more of this.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So its gonna be hard to sign anyone in order to fill the quotas of what needs to be available if no one is an RFa/UFA until after the expansion draft...no?

They don't need to sign anyone to fill the quotes. You can expose RFAs for goaltenders, and every team has at least 2 forwards and 1 defenceman that meets the criteria.

Might mean that teams have to expose someone they don't want to, but I'd like to think they thought of that last off-season. If not, oh well for them.

[Bingo]

Though it's not confirmed ... seems to be the same rumour most of us have been operating under.

But pop goes the last angle for Oiler fans in the trade.

Lucic more useful
Oilers paying some salary
Flames save actual dollars
Calgary gets their third round pick
Lucic waives no movement clause for expansion

In a season where nothing has gone right, at least we have this!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Seattle will want someone who wants to be there and that very likely isnt Gio.

Taking a 38 year old dman with no term who is in decline is a risk at best and a mistake at worst.

I suspect they may take a look at Parsons now that he is back and playing. He still has a hell of a pedigree and G is a spot that they will want a couple young guys developing.

Why would they take a 24 year old bust goalie over a player that at best helps them have a Vegas type year 1 or at worst is a player that will get a decent return as a rental at the deadline. Gio does not have a full NMC so it gives Seattle ample opportunity to shop him. Teams will likely pay a 1st+ at the deadline unless Gio falls off a cliff (which is an inaccurate narrative around here as he is still on pace for 42pts in a full season playing top pair minutes)

Makes absolutely no sense to take Parsons. Gio might get picked because he is the only decent option out there. Seattle needs to hit the cap floor and 1 year of Gio is a better gamble than Parsons or Kylington (who the entire league let pass through waivers already this year)